As does Skool Daze obviously!

AJ wrote:

This is going to get complicated. Take Super Mario Bros. for instance. Best graphics were on the SNES, but the original looks so iconic now that might be better. Then, of course, the Wii U version has save states, so maybe that one. Really, the only versions you can discount are the GBC and Wii versions. Or something. That made more sense in context before I wrote it.

I guess we're gonna just have to go with the flow and see what happens. I'm sure there'll be some heated disagreements but I guess that's half the fun.

Here's my thinking re: arcade ports and games that were bettered on other platforms; by all means vote for them and add them on the list for a particular console, but perhaps we note that a better version exists elsewhere? So Outrun could appear in the MS list, but with (arcade) in brackets after it to show that the definitive version was the arcade (if indeed it was)?

For AJ in regards to the definitive version of Mario Bros: I'd say that save states can be ignored if we are looking at creating a ROM set, they'll all have save states, in which case it's up to you whether you prefer the NES or SNES version. Personally, speaking as someone who never owned either console, I'd go with NES as, even though I never really played it as a child, the music especially from the original has become so iconic that I switched off the SNES version after 5 minutes because I couldn't get on with the new music.

Finally, I support adding C64 and the Amiga to the lists as those were, to my mind at least, the definitive home computers from the 8 and 16 bit eras, and with those two we'd likely cover the definitive versions of the majority of games released in the pre-console era.

That's a good point about save states. Being for emulsion means we don't need to worry about TV connections or controllers, too.

Master of Darkness.  Masters of Combat was a late exclusive that the mags loved (Retro Gamer gave it a thumbs up in a two page look-back recently), but RetroK and I played it recently and it felt like it was only impressive in a 'this is pushing the machine' way.

Master System because that's what I played it on.

Snail Maze? How many have actually played it though? Was never released outside of being built in to the MS1.

Hover Bovver on the C64 needs going in. Probably Minters finest after Tempest and the best lawn mowing sim ever made.

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Which console gets the California Games?  I remember the MS and Lynx versions being good, but there's probably a better version elsewhere.

There's a megadrive version.

Aye, Amiga/ST is a different generation to C64/Spectrum/Amstrad, even though a lot of games (especially arcade ports) came out on both. The big overlap is because the 8-bit computers were still hanging on into the late 80s despite being very underpowered by then.

cockbeard wrote:

I imagine there's no real point in the C64, Speccy stuff, simply because anything any good was done better at some point later down the line.

I totally disagree there. But maybe that’s just showing my age. I was a computer gamer rather than console, until the Playstation years.

poprock wrote:

cockbeard wrote:

I imagine there's no real point in the C64, Speccy stuff, simply because anything any good was done better at some point later down the line.

I totally disagree there. But maybe that’s just showing my age. I was a computer gamer rather than console, until the Playstation years.

I got scared of the arms reace, so had a CPC464 at home, and used an Atari ST at school

I'll split out the Amiga and ST into a different list. But I'll be relying on you guys to help me make sure that things end up in the right places

Jaco wrote:

Amiga and ST are 16-bit. What is going on.

It’s anarchy.

Is there anything on ST that isn't also available on Amiga?

Also, I still think that C64 deserves a place to represent the 8 bit home computers.

Additional C64 picks:

Micropose Soccer 
Rambo First Blood Part 2
Laser Squad
The Great Escape
Barbarian
Last Ninja (2 I think was the best of them)
Shoot em up construction Kit - (odd choice I know but it was quite amazing for the c64, very flexible)
Head over Heels