Meh

Heh

Muzzy is entering the worst run for me I think.
Iron Man 3, Ultron and Civil War I found to be really dull and it's the point I stopped bothering to go to the cinema for these.

CW was a proper high point, I still watch it time to time.

I was really underwhelmed by Ultron at the time, but watched it recently and enjoyed it a lot. Maybe just because it’s one I still haven’t seen a thousand times, or maybe because my expectations weren’t as ridiculous.

Same here, thought Ultron was a mess on first viewing but second time round was a better watch. I think it's down to Ultron being made and vanquished in the same film, they could have set him up better in the iron mans.

Guardians is the best of them. Proper tone shift. They've tried to replicate it afterwards, I'm looking at you Ragnarok, but they've not been able to. That super serious into daft dance scene stuff only works properly once.

Ultron improves on repeat viewing but it's still a messy movie. Winter soldier is coming up though so hopefully you get a lick out of that. I think it's the best stand alone movie. Although it helps if you know who black widow, cap, shield and hydra all are, those points aren't really essential.

Both Galaxies, and Winter Warrior, and Thor Thingy, are all before Ultron I think? That's still a while off isn't it?

It had space elves.

I could be wrong but I've always felt Thor:Dark World is the first film to suffer from the Disney input. If I remember right there was a bit of a backlash (not huge) to Brannaghs more jovial take on Thor in the first film so they got in a Game of Thrones Director to give the film a darker age. The only problem then is that inbetween making Dark World, Avengers comes out and pretty much sets the Marvel Template for Big Action/ Witty Quips. So Dark World has to change its approach mid-production.

I'm not really basing that on anything I've read, just a feeling from watching it because its a real dis-jointed mess of a movie. I know Chris Ecclesten complained about much of his character being left out in the final edit so that more Loki could be shoe-horned in (again, thanks to the success of Loki in Avengers)

poprock wrote:

I found Civil War and Ultron boring. Those two films are the ones where Marvel forgot about making movies that work separately and instead treated them as episodes in a series.

Not the first time I heard that complaint particularly around that time of release. Great if you were invested but as a mate put it, you don't go to the movies and have to try and remember everything that happened before.

Oh absolutely, I was invested and I loved the link up. More of it suited me. But I know it put off some people (evidently not that much judging by the success of the series)

I also wouldn't see it as a criticism that's really fair to be honest. Ultron was movie number 11 in a series that really started to focus on a connected narrative quite early.

Not sure about that. Hard to not say its a continuing series given that Iron Man 3 deals heavily with the fallout from Avengers and Civil War is as much about the Cap / Bucky situation from Winter Soldier as it is the ongoing narrative. 

I'm not sure if its comparable to other films series by this point. Iron Man 3 is film number 7, Ultron is number 11 and Civil War number 13. Thats past 2 trilogies worth of film already and Civil War was marketed as the start of Phase 3 so in no way can it be seen as the closing part of a trilogy.

I'm sure there is something that came before but I cant think of any film series that was so episodic in nature. Iron Man 1 & 2 and Hulk maybe dont quite fit that but by Thor (which is the 4th movie) its very clearly aiming to be an ongoing. I know that series like Bond hit the high numbers, but they were rarely sequels to the previous film let alone linked between several.

I think I'm quite enjoying Iron Man 3. Home stretch, and I think it's up there from the ones so far.

Uh-oh.