Dead Cells - The Bear and Badger

afgavinstan

Some dodgy stuff today going about surrounding IGN's review of this being completely ripped from a youtuber.

Not had a chance to watch it fully but they're being rinsed about it on twitter etc.

cosmicjellybean

I preordered yesterday, played some after midnight when it unlocked (wasn't expecting that!) and I was very sceptical at first, being a run based game. I can't put it down. The actual gameplay of it is so so solid, and although it starts to get pretty tough, you're given enough abilities to get through. Invincible rolling, double jump, everything recharges pretty quickly, good weapons... it just feels good.

JonB wrote:

I instinctively wanted roll on R1, but by the time I changed it I guess I was getting used to having it on circle. Now I'm all sorts of confused.

I did EXACTLY this this morning. I changed it, but then kept hitting A/O, so switched it back. I might try and use R2 for roll, and L1/R1 for grenades. Try and replicate Bayonetta's layout...

afgavinstan

Ok, watched. Yeah, that's pretty gallus.

cosmicjellybean

They've removed it from IGN. Am guessing they got a freelancer in to do it? and they had a couple of other jobs at the same time...

edit: if it turns out to be an IGN staffer who wrote it, that'd be pretty insane. The guy reading the review in the video is quite well known on the site and seems like a legit dude, can't imagine he wrote the review.

The Daddy

Well dodgy. Could be costly for his career.

JonB

Second go got me nowhere.

Third I got my first upgrade and made it a fair bit further. Finally met

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cosmicjellybean

The Daddy wrote:

Well dodgy. Could be costly for his career.

Wow, it was actually written by Filip Miucin... I've heard/seen him on the Nintendo podcasts and he always seemed like a smart and legit dude. The video shows quite clearly it's more than a vague coincidence.

regmcfly

He's their ign Nintendo editor, so it's not like it's a quick freelancer job. He's only been in there like a year after Jose Otero left. Can't see how an editor stays in a gig after that.

If you want me to go full tinfoil, his boss, who he does the Nintendo podcast with, peer Schneider is on holiday in Japan ATM (I follow him on Twitter) so it could be a wee half job Harry while the big guy is out the office.

cosmicjellybean

That sounds plausible.

But... I mean... it's on the internet, did he think no on would find out?

AndCallMeCharlie

Handy being able to change up all the controls

Bob

Are Switch players playing handheld or telly?

cosmicjellybean

Handheld all the way. To be honest I haven’t played anything on the TV in yonks.

Bob

Well that didn't take long to download.

Ready to rock when I get home.

The Daddy

Had a few blasts on this earlier. Seems decent, no hooks in yet but I imagine it’s just a matter of time. Went for PC as really want to finish Hollow Knight on switch and knowing my habits this would’ve just replaced it.

Paul the sparky

I'm loving this more than Hollow Knight, but they are very different games. It's weird how I've got a better feeling for the map in this, and a much better idea of what way I want to go to get to the next bit than I did in Hollow Knight considering the maps are random here and fixed in HK.

Spoiler:

Paul the sparky

15 deaths before I even met the first boss.

Tempy

Over twenty hours before I beat a run, beware

Paul the sparky

It'll be twenty hours before I see the boss again at this rate.

Paul the sparky

Assuming you see the same boss first?

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tigersgogrrr

This is really fucking good, eh?

In the Toxic Sewers atm. Only 4th run.

AndCallMeCharlie

I’m not sure this is for me, kind of feels like it throws everything at you too quickly - was never a fan of the Diablo approach to loot
Also there is no pacing just full throttle from the start

JonB

I've done about 8 runs now.

The combat is so responsive and tight to control. Very nice. Love abusing the ground slam. I've also used bows as a secondary weapon every time so far - they're too satisfying to make me want to try a shield.

As for progress, I've got to the boss Paul mentioned 3 times now and got battered 3 times. Thought I had enough to deal with it last time, but no. Hit it with everything I had and still wasn't that close to beating it.

Think I need to try the other way from the first level.

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afgavinstan

I might need to get this. My struggles with Enter the Gungeon's difficulty may play a factor though. I know that's probably v stupid.

trippy

Catacomb Kids and Streets of Rogue got their hooks into me much more than this, looking forward to trying it again now it's 'done' though.

Bob

afgavinstan wrote:

I might need to get this. My struggles with Enter the Gungeon's difficulty may play a factor though. I know that's probably v stupid.

I’m
Rubbish I’ve still not finished spelunky

Amazed myself first run

Paul the sparky

JonB wrote:

I've done about 8 runs now.

The combat is so responsive and tight to control. Very nice. Love abusing the ground slam. I've also used bows as a secondary weapon every time so far - they're too satisfying to make me want to try a shield.

As for progress, I've got to the boss Paul mentioned 3 times now and got battered 3 times. Thought I had enough to deal with it last time, but no. Hit it with everything I had and still wasn't that close to beating it.

Think I need to try the other way from the first level.

Spoiler:

The sewers. Went there a couple of times and didn't last too long, but feels like the best option.

Spoiler:

Tempy

afgavinstan wrote:

I might need to get this. My struggles with Enter the Gungeon's difficulty may play a factor though. I know that's probably v stupid.

Gungeon is piss, tried to warn ya.

JonB

Paul the sparky wrote:

JonB wrote:

I've done about 8 runs now. The combat is so responsive and tight to control. Very nice. Love abusing the ground slam. I've also used bows as a secondary weapon every time so far - they're too satisfying to make me want to try a shield. As for progress, I've got to the boss Paul mentioned 3 times now and got battered 3 times. Thought I had enough to deal with it last time, but no. Hit it with everything I had and still wasn't that close to beating it. Think I need to try the other way from the first level.

Spoiler:

The sewers. Went there a couple of times and didn't last too long, but feels like the best option.

Spoiler:

I got him down to 25% twice but just can't stay away from his leaping shit. I don't know what the score is with the shields he has either, there's at least two but I don't know what makes each one different, if I should be leaving him along during that bit or attacking him with fire/ice whatevs. Since I'm struggling to dodge him I've been thinking about trying out a shield to learn the parry timing, might be worth it in the long run. I've been dropping the bow for a trap or grenade at the earliest opportunity so far anyway. Some of the kit you get makes you laughably OP for the regular grunts, but the boss still minces you at the end.

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Paul the sparky

JonB wrote:

Paul the sparky wrote:

JonB wrote:

I've done about 8 runs now. The combat is so responsive and tight to control. Very nice. Love abusing the ground slam. I've also used bows as a secondary weapon every time so far - they're too satisfying to make me want to try a shield. As for progress, I've got to the boss Paul mentioned 3 times now and got battered 3 times. Thought I had enough to deal with it last time, but no. Hit it with everything I had and still wasn't that close to beating it. Think I need to try the other way from the first level.

Spoiler:

The sewers. Went there a couple of times and didn't last too long, but feels like the best option.

Spoiler:

I got him down to 25% twice but just can't stay away from his leaping shit. I don't know what the score is with the shields he has either, there's at least two but I don't know what makes each one different, if I should be leaving him along during that bit or attacking him with fire/ice whatevs. Since I'm struggling to dodge him I've been thinking about trying out a shield to learn the parry timing, might be worth it in the long run. I've been dropping the bow for a trap or grenade at the earliest opportunity so far anyway. Some of the kit you get makes you laughably OP for the regular grunts, but the boss still minces you at the end.

Spoiler:

I think the white shield makes you dizzy for a couple of seconds, the red one damages you and can drain your health very quickly. I had a teleport move and two healing flasks on my last run and still couldn't do it. I just struggle to pick his moves out quickly enough when he starts his fire and jumping attacks.

Spoiler:

Bob

Paul the sparky wrote:

JonB wrote:

Paul the sparky wrote:

JonB wrote:

I've done about 8 runs now. The combat is so responsive and tight to control. Very nice. Love abusing the ground slam. I've also used bows as a secondary weapon every time so far - they're too satisfying to make me want to try a shield. As for progress, I've got to the boss Paul mentioned 3 times now and got battered 3 times. Thought I had enough to deal with it last time, but no. Hit it with everything I had and still wasn't that close to beating it. Think I need to try the other way from the first level.

Spoiler:

The sewers. Went there a couple of times and didn't last too long, but feels like the best option.

Spoiler:

I got him down to 25% twice but just can't stay away from his leaping shit. I don't know what the score is with the shields he has either, there's at least two but I don't know what makes each one different, if I should be leaving him along during that bit or attacking him with fire/ice whatevs. Since I'm struggling to dodge him I've been thinking about trying out a shield to learn the parry timing, might be worth it in the long run. I've been dropping the bow for a trap or grenade at the earliest opportunity so far anyway. Some of the kit you get makes you laughably OP for the regular grunts, but the boss still minces you at the end.

Spoiler:

I think the white shield makes you dizzy for a couple of seconds, the red one damages you and can drain your health very quickly. I had a teleport move and two healing flasks on my last run and still couldn't do it. I just struggle to pick his moves out quickly enough when he starts his fire and jumping attacks.

Spoiler:

Yeah, that's the bit where he kicks off and spans all his good stuff. Cheers for the shield info. Might try keeping my ice nade for when he's using the red 'un and not smash him out of it so the thing wears off.

Was the teleport move the backstab thing? I'm in the process of unlocking that but I'd imagine it puts you too close to the boss to be of use when his shield is up?

Maybe start a spoiler thread cos this is already annoying

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