Joking apart, you should always, always have a chocolate bar in one of your belt pouches, or tucked in some barely accessible corner of your body armour.

Lee giving Gervais and Clarkson both barrels. a Delight as per.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/12/ricky-gervais-and-jeremy-clarkson-are-no-laughing-matter

Lee's DVDs retain more value, so who's laughing now?

Certainly not anyone watching Gervais act.

Preeeeeeeeeetty sure if Lee ever joined here and attempted to comment on vidyagames and saw half your shite Bob, he'd say you're losing it too.

Bob wrote:

Lee a little jealous that his own monetizing isn’t as money.

Laughed at this.  

Lee is the only comedian I've ever bothered to get off my arse and see in the flesh.  Three times at his own shows and once by chance at a Driveby Truckers gig.  Man has taste.

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Bob wrote:

Lee a little jealous that his own monetizing isn’t as money.

Laughed at this.  

Lee is the only comedian I've ever bothered to get off my arse and see in the flesh.  Three times at his own shows and once by chance at a Driveby Truckers gig.  Man has taste.

I’m a fan. But he’s drilled down on the not being
Funny

Bob wrote:

Do you know i recently re-watched all of Stewart lees comedy vehicle and carpet world what ever it was and his beeb special it’s not that he’s not funny but Gervais will make you laugh more. It may not be as ‘clever’ but you can see Lee has lost it slightly

I... I mean that was the concept of Carpet Remnant World.

There is no bargaining process with me.

Fuck their empowerment

Better than the States where you see the price of something, walk to the counter, then it costs more than the sticker said because why bother adding tax to the price tag? Annoying.

The half ton blocks of cheese you can get in Makro are amazing.

Bob wrote:

Lee a little jealous that his own monetizing isn’t as money.

I don't think so; Stew seems pretty happy with his lot financially on the odd occasion he actually speaks about it. He has written about how Gervais essentially lifted his style and popularised it which he wasn't too pleased about (or devastated rather) but I don't think it's jealousy. Gervais idolised Lee and I imagine Gervais would still aspire to be comparable to Stew as a comedian, rather than a celebrity (Office notwithstanding). Of course both of them know they can't get near Kitson who I doubt gives a shit about any of it. Craft innit.

Oops, wrong thread.

Gervais is an interesting one. Back on the Eleven O’Clock Show, and throughout The Office, and Extras, the joke was on the bigot. He wrote and performed jokes about race, disability, and so forth, and it was funny because it was the prejudice that was being mocked, not those it prejudged.

I haven’t seen the Golden Globes stuff, but the Caitlyn Jenner stuff in his last stand-up show was way off. It was nasty. Gervais demonstrates the same ignorance and lack of empathy that so often defined David Brent’s behaviour. It’s place, in that show, seemed to demonstrate a shocking lack of self-awareness.

Perhaps there were signs of this coming as early as Extras, where Andy Millman is a more relatable figure than Brent, while retaining a fair portion of his prejudices. I’ve often thought that Millman seems close to how Gervais sees himself.

I may be pretentious, but I don’t judge comedy by how much I laugh, probably because it’s rare for things I’m watching to actually make me laugh. Gervais’s television makes me cringe more than it makes me laugh, but that in itself is entertaining. And if Extras came from the heart, then Gervais should be more concerned about integrity than income. Money might have changed that.

Is Stewart Lee jealous of Gervais’s millions? I doubt it. He strikes me as a man with more integrity. He possibly would like to make more money, but I think he’d have a career-ending crisis if he ever thought he’d lost his integrity in pursuit of pounds. Yes, he makes jokes about it, but the jokes are about the relationship between artistic integrity and what is popular.

I’ve banged this drum a few times, but Hannah Gadsby’s stand-up show Nanette is an incredible piece of work. It contains a fraction of the laughs in other people’s routines, but is probably one of the best stand-up shows I’ve seen. If you haven’t seen it, watch it as soon as you can. Just make sure you set aside enough time to watch it in one sitting. Ideally enough time to watch it twice.

I seem to remember that Gadsby’s follow up to Nanette is coming this year. She was talked into sticking with comedy after all.