RIP videogames

Now thinking about this and what Tango and Arkane have put out and I genuinely don't get it. NGL double fine must be looking over their shoulder.

regmcfly wrote:

Now thinking about this and what Tango and Arkane have put out and I genuinely don't get it.

Obviously it’s sad regarding both but my understanding is the Arkane that existed before Redfall’s development was effectively no longer there by the time Redfall released.

Arkane Lyon which is the biggun is still going, they are working on Blade.

Austin did Redfall and Prey (most recent one). Redfall was a disaster, should have been an evergreen title for GP and flopped.

Tango were HiFi Rush and I really get the impression it didn't do well enough. The shadow drop helped it a lot but had distinct "it's nice that they did that" energy.
I've not seen official sales figures but it didn't trouble the top 100 most played on release in PS5.

Both are talented studios with varying degrees of slipups most recently. They easily could have put out good games still. I get the distinct impression if a Dev isn't putting out one of the handful of big hitters then they are on thin ice now.

Absolute joke. Spencer and Booty and the gang are the biggest bunch of slimy cunts going.

Dishonored sold well. 

Prey did not, but Deathloop seems to have done ok. Bit hard to find numbers, but they had 5 million players just over a year ago.

They seem like they would be adding value to Gamepass at any rate.

Prey 2017 I think that's it.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Dishonored sold well.  Prey did not, but Deathloop seems to have done ok. Bit hard to find numbers, but they had 5 million players just over a year ago. They seem like they would be adding value to Gamepass at any rate.

Aren't all those from the team that's still going? I don't know what the other team made outside of Redfall

Was a response to this, other posts happened inbetween.

b0r1s wrote:

Arkane was never a massive seller was it? Loved by reviewers and a small set of gamers. Not what MS want obviously.

Fair enough. It was just a perception I had about them as a whole.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Didn't play Prey either but that was well received too wasn't it? I know there's been financial trouble around the industry for ages but it does feel like one dud and you're gone.

I saw something about the games with the highest player counts and play time last year was all on older established IPs, I think the only new IP which made it into the top ten was Starfield, the rest was old stuff like Fortnite etc.

It's very difficult for a new IP to break through. Makes publishers more risk averse, which sucks balls. More fresh games, fewer stale ones please

Yeah, Prey was absolute quality. I did the OP for that after the demo came out - a proper, proper immersive sim. Loved it.

The impression I get is that these games don't deliver the return for MS that they now need after their spending spree, right at the hardest time in decades to make a good return on games. Because that's likely an unreasonable expectation.

They'll be looking at HiFi and Redfall and thinking it's not worth the risk on GP filler when they can just license a third party game for GP that someone else has taken the risk on and likely get a similar return.

It's sucks because it will leech out creativity from the industry. Its not just MS on this front mind, less risk is gonna be a thing.

Turning a great vibe for the concept of gamepass?

I am the furthest thing from an analyst but I would suspect the realities of the Activision deal have hit home, and Microsoft's previous goal of being like the Netflix of games with multiple studios is now untenable so it's pay gamepass to cod.shite deal if so.

Dark Soldier wrote:

playing that crab thing on gamepass and its great so yay microsoft

Half Life is on Gamepass?

At times like this even I can’t make a joke.

Really sad news and you wonder who is going to make the new off beat none franchise could be great games

I thought hifi rush got great reviews