If all my Xbox One games suddenly transfer to my PC my Xbox One is going straight up CEX.

RamSteelwood wrote:

so basically pc gamers will pay console prices for their games.

^ This. Like when MS were touting all that stuff about not being able to share/sell disc-based Xbox One games, and a small minority were for it because they thought it'd bring down prices. Ha. Right, because Micrsoft love us all so huggy muggy much. Someone may have suggested it at a meeting, but odds on they were chased off a cliff by a ravening horde of share-holders.

The more I think about this Xbox/PC blending, the more I think it's going to backfire for Microsoft. If they put up PC games to match Xbox One prices, that'll just play right into Valve's hands.

Ngg my graphics keep coming back perfectly before it announces it's failed and they go shit again.  IT OBVIOUSLY HADN@T FAILED IT WAS LOOKING FINE YOU STUPID OH I GIVE UP.

That is shit muzz.
Can't you try a rollback to the earlier version that worked?

Disable the driver, than update the driver but click the option to look for it yourself, windows should take you to the folder with all the driver versions you have including the older ones. Look at the dates installed and go from there. I had initial issues with my AMD card and I think that's what I did to fix it. Similar happened with my WiFi cards driver.

Cool Man - nothing worse than big ass fonts on a pc screen!

After a few weeks in win 10 I can honestly say:
Win7 + Steam = 100% comp.
Win10 + Steam =60- 70 % comp.

Some of the games not working correctly in win10 (setup is corei7/nvidia gtm555 2gb, 8gb ram)

Any source game
Never alone
Sega all stars racing
Alan Wake
Bunch of others

So beware of upgrading to win10 if you're attached to certain games. Dunno if they will get patched by either the dev or nvidia, if ever.

The games that do work correctly in win10 show slight performance improvements and higher fps.

Those are games working fine for me although I don't have Never Alone.

Nevermind, after a clean boot most games seem to work flawlessly in win10.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/its-time-to-declare-valves-steam-machines-doa/

Ouch, but such an outcome in the short term really was to be expected.
SteamOS/machines are fighting a losing war on 2 fronts: Consoles on one hand and Windows on the other.
To expect SteamOS to gain a foothold in the crowded gaming market in just 7 months is ludicrous. That's not to say the project is doomed. Valve just needs to be a bit more tenacious and business savvy about it.

Imho:
1.Valve needs to realise SteamOS is fighting a war on 2 fronts.
They've entirely ignored the desktop crowd favoring a more console like distro. Why not do a full fledged distro aimed at htpc/gaming enthusiasts? And I do mean a full fledged distro complete with it's own set of standard apps rivalling, ye know......Windows? They could even follow android's model and do 2 versions of SteamOS: a proprietary full version and a bare stripped down open source one for the foss crowd.
The goal isn't entirely impossible either as there has yet to be a Linux desktop distro to succesfully compete with windows. Yes I know, taking MS head on on their own turf is extremely intimidating. But Valve's already halfway there trying to break DX12's dominance. Why not go all the way? Who knows, they might even gain a huge userbase of more than just gamers...

2.To promote a new platform you really do need exclusives.  Android would not have succeeded against iOS if google didn't implement it's killer feature so well: google apps. Gmail, play store, search, google now, chrome; they all have deep integration and work seamlessly in Android. SteamOS needs a similar killer feature.

3.Which brings me to my third point. Valve insists on treating all 3 platforms (Win10,OSX,Linux) as equal and won't do exclusive features for SteamOS. Wrong, wrong, wrong Gabe. SteamOS needs exclusive features to stand out from the other platforms otherwise people won't buy into it. Whether these be games (HL3,L4D3,Portal3, TF3, DotA3) or OS specific features, SteamOS needs to stand out from the crowd. You cannot be a competitor to Windows and/or the consoles and be totally platform agnostic. Something has to give.
Google realised this with Android and used certain gapps as leverage in the early days of Android vs iOS (google maps comes to mind). Without it I doubt their OS would have gained the traction it needed to succeed in the long run.

The big question now is, how long will Valve be able to keep the SteamOS project alive? Sure they make millions of $$ from the windows steam store and Gabe is no doubt willing and able to redirect revenue streams back into SteamOS. But how long can they keep this up really once oems and retail start abandoning them? Valve really needs to rethink their strategy in the long run, otherwise SteamOS will be doa in hindsight.

Given that PSOneBox4 are going the Apple route with incremental upgrades and a sliding compatibility window, a Steambox had jumped to the top of my 'consoles to get' list. I think part of the problem is that they've done the typical Valve thing of "release it half done and we'll fix it along the way", not really realising that that's probably not the best move when you're asking people to drop significant amounts of cash on actual hardware.

Liveinadive wrote:

Along with the associated marketing of course.

The lack of advertising makes me think that Valve lost interest in the idea. VR seemed to take their attention and complicate the idea of a Steam Box as a console alternative.

hunk wrote:

They should just release Half Life3, Portal3, L4D3, DotA3, TF3 and CS2 as (timed) Linux/SteamOS exclusives... It really isn't that hard Valve.

Yeah, just create amazing sequels to six of the most beloved franchises of all time. Child's play.

Nintendo steam nx. Its the only way

RedDave2 wrote:

Nintendo steam nx. Its the only way

That was my suggestion. I still think it would be the best bet for both companies too.