Red Dead Redemption / Undead Nightmare - The Bear and Badger

Moto70

Sweet.

stonechalice

My experience with RDR...

Moot_Geeza

It had been out for a year by the time I bought it (£12.99, bargain), and I think most of the glitches had been ironed out with patches by then. I got stuck on a rock on horseback at one point, but other than that it was hiccup free. Never played the dlc, not big on zombies but it looked substantial.

Bollockoff

Still makes me laugh.

Bob

10 years old yesterday

retroking1981

Was a great game.

Still not played the second.

Minnesänger

Bob wrote:

10 years old yesterday

Happy Birthday, Bob. You don't look a day over 40.

Blocks100

retroking1981 wrote:

Was a great game. Still not played the second.

Best keep it that way, partner.

retroking1981

Blocks100 wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

Was a great game. Still not played the second.

Best keep it that way, partner.

Yeah, I've heard mixed opinions.

stonechalice

retroking1981 wrote:

Was a great game.

Still not played the second.

I tried three times to get through the fucking sequel. I never did finish it. Never has a game been so unbelievably gorgeous to look at, yet so utterly ponderous and boring to play. It was exhausting.

regmcfly

stonechalice wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

Was a great game.

Still not played the second.

I tried three times to get through the fucking sequel. I never did finish it. Never has a game been so unbelievably gorgeous to look at, yet so utterly ponderous and boring to play. It was exhausting.

This is also me. The most incredible trudge.
The first is a bit special. Pacing on some parts of that is incredible, particularly as you are going after some of the gang. Still looks great, too. I've kept my 360 copy just because it's so great.

g.man

Aye, me too. I can't think of another series that I bounce off soooooooo hard. I should love it, but it's just not for me.

Eric

I'm struggling with 2 and would like to get back into it, but the original Red Dead holds a special place in my heart. I don't think I've liked /enjoyed playing an in game character as much as John Marston. The story just got me hooked.

Eric

Having said that if Cain was playable in Binary Domain that would probably change.

yourfavouriteuncle

Eric wrote:

I'm struggling with 2 and would like to get back into it, but the original Red Dead holds a special place in my heart. I don't think I've liked /enjoyed playing an in game character as much as John Marston. The story just got me hooked.

This is me and my Arthur in the sequel. Never has there been a more honourable cowboy.

afgavinstan

Eric wrote:

Having said that if Cain was playable in Binary Domain that would probably change.

I feel u bro

RedDave2

regmcfly wrote:

stonechalice wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

Was a great game. Still not played the second.

I tried three times to get through the fucking sequel. I never did finish it. Never has a game been so unbelievably gorgeous to look at, yet so utterly ponderous and boring to play. It was exhausting.

This is also me. The most incredible trudge. The first is a bit special. Pacing on some parts of that is incredible, particularly as you are going after some of the gang. Still looks great, too. I've kept my 360 copy just because it's so great.

I'd probably take a remaster of RDR over RDR2. Give me the look of the sequel but the pace and character of the first. I never got to really sink time into undead nightmare so that would give me a reason to go back. But I loved that first one - depsite the second having more 'more' I dont feel as free to just wander like I felt I could in the first.

regmcfly

I think the thing is the first one actually moves at quite a clip when it gets to it, and the last third is compelling you through missions you want to do.

I feel the same with GTA4 Vs 5- the former actually has better missions (Paddy!) Vs the latter's pad over 3 protags.

Bob

It’s the same old rock* shit they have the money to make amazing worlds but they game mechanics are as archaic as ever

regmcfly

Aye but the world is always well worth a poke

stonechalice

Yeah for a few hours. Rockstar stories have always gone on for far too long. They need a total overhaul of their game mechanics - they're archaic nowadays.

RedDave2

I suppose its the price for how deep you want to make your world. But as a games player, I really dont want needless chores and over-prolonged dialogue getting in the way of the actual gameplay. Granted I didnt get that far into RDR2 but I found a lot of the dialogue points were overlong and while I'm all for atmosphere and world building, the dialogue still needed to be more engrossing.

But looking back, when I played RDR1 I was married but had no child with a job that while demanding allowed for plenty of down time. Now, job is more demanding, have a child, wife has more on her plate as well and I guess I dont have as much down time for games like this.

Dark Soldier

I have no kids and all the free time in the world and i cant be arsed with long, drawn out epics anymore. Probably a sign of age beyond anything.

Saying that im taking time off for Cyberpunk, already told the missus.

kestla

Yeah, there's definitely an age/generational element to things. There are so many games (RDR2 included) that I pretty much rule out these days, on account of how expansive they are. Married life and kids have put an end to long gaming sessions. Any game with 'side quests' just make me sigh a little these days. I'm slightly thankful for the lockdown, as I've finally found time to play BOTW, but come the return of 'normality' I'll most likely have to revert back to shorter/tighter narratives.

Bob

Dark Soldier wrote:

I have no kids and all the free time in the world and i cant be arsed with long, drawn out epics anymore. Probably a sign of age beyond anything.

Saying that im taking time off for Cyberpunk, already told the missus.

I’m the same except I can be bothered when some thing grabs me I find the time - half an hour before the boy wakes half an hour after the bus (non corona) etc

stonechalice

Wish I had all the time in the world.

hylian_elf

Dark Soldier wrote:

I have no kids and all the free time in the world and i cant be arsed with long, drawn out epics anymore. Probably a sign of age beyond anything. Saying that im taking time off for Cyberpunk, already told the missus.

When’s ‘Punk due out?

Dark Soldier

hylian_elf wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

I have no kids and all the free time in the world and i cant be arsed with long, drawn out epics anymore. Probably a sign of age beyond anything. Saying that im taking time off for Cyberpunk, already told the missus.

When’s ‘Punk due out?

17th September

RedDave2

kestla wrote:

Yeah, there's definitely an age/generational element to things. There are so many games (RDR2 included) that I pretty much rule out these days, on account of how expansive they are. Married life and kids have put an end to long gaming sessions. Any game with 'side quests' just make me sigh a little these days. I'm slightly thankful for the lockdown, as I've finally found time to play BOTW, but come the return of 'normality' I'll most likely have to revert back to shorter/tighter narratives.

Side quests is fine, but a side quest in rdr2 can take ages. There's plenty of expansive games where you can drop in for 30 minutes and get a mission or task done. I didn't feel that option for rdr2 especially if you fail and want to try a repeat. I think I gave up when the same mission kept eating up my game time with dialogue.

MattyJ

I wonder if they'd just stuck to 'normal' controls in RDR2 rather than making everything so convoluted that more people would've played through it. I really enjoyed my time with RDR2 but haven't gone back in a long time. Partly because there are a lot of complicated mechanics, partly because the controls mean you never feel totally at ease playing it, and partly because I know I need to sit down for more than 30 mins to play it.

I know it's a conscious design choice of theirs, and to try and make it feel like an actual cowboy, that controlling your horse and shooting a gun is not an easy task...but I get the impression those that bounced off was because of those things?

My memory of RDR is that is was way more 'gamey' than RDR2.

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