RamSteelwood wrote:

yeah, i was the same with the grand tour.

davyK wrote:

Top Gear people need to realise the big three was a happening that occurred naturally; not by any design. It needs to draw a line under it and get back to being a motoring journalism show. For all of Clarkson and Cos faults they knew about motoring and were fanboys who happened to get on. The latest attempts have proven that Chris Evans is a tosser (as if that were needed), Le Blanc would get bored (and did). This one will fair no better without a solid backup from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Paddy McGuinness is a prick who got lucky in Phoenix Nights and has lived off it since.

afgavinstan wrote:

Just throw it all in the bin tbh.

tin_robot wrote:

I thought the latest episode of The Good Place was an absolute delight.  There's not much you can say without becoming horrifically spoiler heavy, but it was simultaneously feel-good yet kind of subversive.  

Doctor Who was a more complicated one to comment on.  Some of the acting was terrible, dialogue was often clunky, often coming across as nothing more than a lesson, and the music choice at the end was faintly embarrassing, but...  When I heard they were doing a Rosa Parks episode I was seriously worried - and yet they dodged pretty much every potential pitfall.  That's actually quite an achievement.  Fundamentally it was about her, not the doctor and Co.  It's also, to my mind, the only time Who's really tackled racism head-on.  (Sure, it's been raised before, but here it was clearly the enemy - more so than the episode's bolted on baddie - and they did a good job of conveying its ubiquitous evil)

Also, having sniggered at Bradley Walsh's presence to date, he gets one truly great moment in this that made me realise he's earned his spot.

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Aaroncupboard wrote:

I think the ending was great myself.

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I do feel that if it had continued with the horror style ending (I.e revealing more about the ghosts, escalating the horror etc.) then even that may have been criticised. I find horror can be such a difficult genre to end. For me, them all being killed by the house would have been almost too obvious. I quite liked that people were able to make something positive out of something so evil and negative.

My problem is really that

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Tonally it's just too jarring a jump. They were never going to go more in-depth on the victims than they did, which was good, nor were they ever going to be stupid enough to kill them. But they went too far the other way. Instead of Liv placating the house, she suddenly has power over it... or at the very least she's a manifstation of the house's will, which decides to be generous for once. From Nell's speech, I thought it was going to be fairly clear that whatever they did, the House was always going to linger, waiting for them to fuck up. But instead, it just gave us everyone's happy ever after. If anything the 2 year jump was just too extreme. I dunno. It spent all this time building characters I was interested and then just closed the book and said "happy ever after!" as if the House was the only thing that had made them suffer, which really made all of their struggles quite hollow for me