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This double quarter pounder meal from Official Euro 2020 Partner™ McDonald's is tasting tainted, must say.

Time to go back into football hibernation until England go out

Imagine being the only team not to beat us in that group lmao how embarrassing

It's a massive "if" though innit? Especially playing against a better side.

This tentative horseshit football won't win many games

With the might of Sir Harry 'Jaundice' Kane doing his best 32yo Rooney impersonation, we can bore the continent's best to our proudest victory since Brexit.

Be the 52%. Round of applause on our doorsteps when Slabhead pings an 89th winner in off his arse in the final.

Aye, Southgate makes a lot of the right noises off the pitch, I quite like the cut of his jib.

But as a football manager the bloke is a total wet wipe

Skade wrote:

The thing is Greece had a thing, they could break and cross the ball. We don't.

We score early then negate any possibility of further football being played.

Aye. We concede first and the "plan" goes out the fucking window

The defensive shit will come unstuck against any of Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, France, Germany or Portugal. We might squeak a win against one of them but those group performances aren't the sort of thing that's going to work repeatedly against that mob. 

But that's a solid set of results from what might have been a tricky group. I get the frustration because there's some absolute mint players there. We should be able to score fairly regularly against anyone. And the team doesn't seem to respond to changes in the game. Seems a bit unsure how they should be playing a lot of the time. And the substitutions seem to make them play worse.

Would be good if we won the Euros managed by a man named Gareth playing the most Gareth brand of football you've ever seen. 

Apologies to any Gareths.

monkey wrote:

The defensive shit will come unstuck against any of Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, France, Germany or Portugal. We might squeak a win against one of them but those group performances aren't the sort of thing that's going to work repeatedly against that mob. 

But that's a solid set of results from what might have been a tricky group. I get the frustration because there's some absolute mint players there. We should be able to score fairly regularly against anyone. And the team doesn't seem to respond to changes in the game. Seems a bit unsure how they should be playing a lot of the time. And the substitutions seem to make them play worse.

I think England have a chance of beating Netherlands, Belgium, and possibly Portugal. As for the rest, draw and penos is the best we can hope for.

Honestly, can't see England avoiding defeat vs Germany, France or Italy. There's an error in the keeper, or defence. Even Portugal I'm not sure about tbh.

Netherlands are a bit naive and Belgium have not impressed at all.

Pundits on all outlets are giving it "If you were offered top of the group with 3 clean sheets you would take it, cant always win 4,5-0".

Totally missing the point, it has always been about later on in the tournament.
I said this after the 2 friendlies just before the tournament and after beating Croatia 1-0. England have to show more to be convincing and it doesn't look like its there.
Its not like France in 2018 where they confidentially cruised until stepping up a gear for the last two matches. This looks like peek England under Southgate, this is the plan.

Portugal were fucking awful in the group stage in 2016. Three draws, looked terrible. Champions a couple weeks later.

I take the group stage with a pinch of salt tbh. If you can coast with minimal effort, do it.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Aye, Southgate makes a lot of the right noises off the pitch, I quite like the cut of his jib.

But as a football manager the bloke is a total wet wipe

Gareth Southgates sign outside his office

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