hylian_elf wrote:

Original had one of my favourite gaming moments. It was used by ND / Sony / Cook & Becker for one of the art prints. And no, it’s not the giraffe bit. It’s when Joel and Ellie have an argument and she runs off. Joel finds her in the bedroom of some kid. Toys and kid drawings and all sorts everywhere. And she is just standing there, kinda soaking it in and how terrible it is - as was I (as Joel).

Is that early on? I was so completely bummed out by one bit, I think you could read the kid's diary in the days leading up to the world going to shit. It kind of did its job too well because I never went back.

Said it for years, I'd rather have fewer, harder hitting enemies that go down in a bullet or two than a horde of bullet sponges that can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Said it for years, I'd rather have fewer, harder hitting enemies that go down in a bullet or two than a horde of bullet sponges that can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

I think just fewer combat scenes as well, but make each one distinct. In both TLOU and Uncharted 4 there are so many combat scenes that feel like they don't serve any purpose. They don't introduce anything new, the enemies are the same as the ones in the last few scenes, they don't require any thought and so on.

It's weird how rigidly gamey they are as well, considering the levels of realism they achieve elsewhere. Whenever you see some long grass or some cover height walls you know exactly what's coming. Or when you want to find the way forward you just look for the box to stand on or the white hand holds on a cliff face, without even needing to stop and understand the layout of the place. As if it's not bothered about integrating the playing experience into an otherwise believable environment.

The toothbrush shivs did the immersion in for me in TLoU.
Why are there so many toothbrushes and so few other, more useful things to use as a shiv?

I started the remaster of the original Uncharted this morning, never having played it before.
Interesting to see how the genre has progressed since, because boy is it clunky as all fuck.
Still, it's apparently thirteen years old now, so I'm happy to cut it some slack.
Drake controls like a shambling drunk mainly due to the camera being absolutely awful. 
The gunplay is Police Squad levels of badness, and even for this series the "just press X for gameplay" nonsense is off the scale.
It was probably all super-duper at the time, but I get the feeling it hasn't aged well at all.
Probably doesn't help that I'm currently ass-deep in The Division 2, which I guess is the current benchmark for this type of cover-shooting silliness.
Not a dead loss then, but it does a lot to annoy the player that was papered over in future titles.
Also, it must be hell of a short? I played for probably less than a couple of hours, and when I shut it down it said it was 25% complete???

Here's a random thing: I get so gutted when I go in CEX and the PS3 versions of the Uncharted games are literally £1.50 each. I remember playing Uncharted 2 for the first time on launch day and it being so exciting and beautiful. It feels like yesterday! But it was over a decade ago and now CEX can barely give the things away, they're just trash.

I played 2 at the time. Quite enjoyed it (certainly moreso than this one), though it definitely overstays it's welcome. My memory tells me it was a good bit more refined than this one, so it'll be interesting to see if that's just my memory playing tricks on me.

Yeah, I've never played 3.

EvilRedEye wrote:

If you don't like Uncharted 1... like it was noticeably dated by the time Uncharted 2 came out but it's mainly the traversal mechanics and general flow of the gameplay that got fixed up rather than the gunplay. So I don't know how you'll get on with 2.

I think the spectacle carried the series further than it really needed. And after the sugar rush wears off the value of the overall package becomes closer to the $1.50 for used copies. Its The Mummy films or Indiana Jones with the same amount of interactivity.

The biggest shortcoming is the robo-platforming. The only skill required is patience, while the character traverses a few rocks, and after the mandatory cinematic slip which only actually means you then have to hold the analog stick in a single direction for three times as long.

NDs games always have too much combat but they're pretty and they tend to tell good stories so that pulls me through. I thought they did some good stuff to the combat in 4 that made it a bit more free form than the previous ones but it still did the multiple waves thing which is always annoying

Wonder how much of that trailer will be a reaction to the leaks.

Yeah probably won't watch it if it's coming out so soon

Gamers Radars LoU2 12th June

b0r1s wrote:

Gonna go in blind I’ve seen enough to know I’ll still like it. Worse case scenario is it’s gonna be more of the same and I’ll be happy with that.

This is where I’m at with it. I know most in here don’t like ND’s stuff but it totally floats me boat so I’m in and with knowing as little as possible too.

When’s launch? I’ve got last week in June off.