Didn't Disney say they were chucking out all the expanded universe stuff when they took over?

Disney said the books/comics i.e. expanded universe wasnt lore anymore. If that relates to lighsabers who knows. Windu had a purple lightsaber and he was a jedi.

I'm fully expecting the image of Rey using two lightsabres to deflect Emperor Palpatine 2.0's death lightning to become a meme for the Scottish Indy campaign as it resembled a Saltire. A brief Twitter search returned the following, albeit lacking the image: https://twitter.com/YesDayScotland/status/1207666783064330242

Dinostar77 wrote:

It wouldnt have taken too long to show rey recovering kylo rens saber, modifiying it to add a green crystal with his red to produce a yellow light.

By the time you add in everything that people want that ‘wouldn’t take too long’, you’d be making the film several times longer. In a time when long-form dramas on TV arrive a season at a time and people binge on them, it strikes me that people are forgetting that there needs to be an economy of storytelling in feature films.

“Dinostar77” wrote:

Which is indicative of a jedi sentienal class. There are three classes of jedi in the lore. Thats just me being a nerd.

Unless that colour coding is in the TV series I haven’t watched, it’s been ditched.

Is this better or worse than the last one?

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Is this better or worse than the last one?

Better!

From reddit

The Star Wars Episode 9 Visual Dictionary is out today, and it clarifies numerous mysteries on the entire Trilogy.

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Allow me to share some of the points I've picked up upon skimming the book today. Beware that these plot points spoil much of the film.

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Snoke was created by the Sith Eternal Cultists, possibly even before Palpatine died. He was absolutely a part of Palpatine's contingency plan, and his death was a minor setback as worst. His species and age are unknown "possibly unique", but Exegol is his home planet. His entire purpose was explicitly stated to be a trainer/test for Kylo to ensure he was ready to "inherit the Sith Legacy". Though he was also useful as a puppet to lead the First Order. It is again confirmed that he took over leadership from Rae Sloane, Brendol Hux, and Pryde.

Mustafar is the planet at the start of the film. The species you see Kylo fighting at the start of IX are Vader worshiping cultists who pilgrimage to Mustafar. Vader's castle is in ruins by this era. The Mask reforging scene was also on Mustafar.

Kif Bar is the moon of Endor, one of 9. It is an ocean moon, and where the DSII remnants landed. The Forest moon is simply called... Forest Moon.

The First Order that we're familiar with began when a group of Centrist systems unleashed a separatist movement (exact phrase used) from the New Republic 5 years BSI (Before Starkiller Incident, the calender used in the book). Before this, they had only operated in secret, using the Centrists in the NR Senate as their front, and using proxy armies like the Amaxine warriors to gain funds/resources, cause chaos for them. A lot of these events were discussed in the novel bloodlines, but this clarifies the timeline more.

Luke trained Ben at age 11 until 6 years BSI (Same Year as Leia's identity was ousted in Bloodlines). He trained him for 13 years total. Luke's Jedi order likely began this same year.

STARKILLER BASE IS ILLUM, CONFIRMED. Darth Tanis was the Sith Lord who created the weapon on Malachor 4000 years BSI. The ship's weapon was also intentionally engineered so you can see its effects from outside hyperspace in multiple systems, and it was built based on experimental Imperial tech after Sheev fell.

Exegol is one of the oldest Sith worlds and one of their deepest secrets in the unknown Regions. The Sith who run Palaptine's plan are part of the Sith Eternal Cult, and they are responsible for the entire events of everything you see in the ST, having operated behind the scenes to build power for decades, at Sheev's command.

The Sith Troopers and officers are not clones, but kidnapped children from Exegol and the surrounding systems that have been grown and reconditioned continually to be loyal. The reconditioning process is a more advance version of the clone flash training programs from the clone wars era despite them being separate beings. They have legions of soldiers named after ancient EU Sith like Revan, Teneborus, and Andeddu. This re-canonizes their names, at the very least. Ziost, Korriban, Malachor, Jaguada, Rhelg, Tython, Ossus, and other ancient worlds are also referenced.

Luke died because he put his living force energy deep into the cosmic force, which allowed him to project anywhere at great cost. The effects of this were so strong that when he let go, he became one with the force and died.

THE DYAD IS A SITH PROPHESY! They show the SIth runes and language that make up the prophesy, and it is said to be nearly identical to the language with forms the basis of the Rule of Two, with only a few symbols changed. The Rule of Two may even be based off of this text (my own speculation).

It is strongly implied that Palpatine died, but was resurrected. The exact mechanisms of which are not laid out unless I missed the text about it. This appears to be all part of his contingency, including what we saw play out in the Aftermath books.

From Aftermath, Yupe Tashu and the Acolytes of the Beyond are members of the Sith Eternal cult and were in on his plans.

Rey was left on Jakku when she was 6 years old.
The Knights of Ren are rumored to either be the decedents of or based on a myth of ancient marauders who travel and raid worlds in the unknown regions. They do not seem to be explicitly Sith, but rather are recruited and ally with them. Each member gets their own full name and entry in this book.

Luke and Lando searched for Exegol together, and tracked Ochi's ship the same year he murdered Rey's parents.
Leia has Han's medal in the film, and I'm pretty sure this is what Maz gives to Chewbacca at the end, so he sould have 2. (He was given a separate one after A New Hope in another story)

Poe was a spice runner when he rebelled at Age 16, but he later reformed and returned to the New Republic, before joining the Resistance. This means his backstory from the film fits with his canon story from other material.

Chris Terrio writes the forward intro and endorses Pablo directly, so it is clear that much of this info must come from ideas they discussed when writing the film. It came out the same day as the film's release, so it's not as if this info is a retcon of Episode 9 itself.

Overall, I very strongly recommend reading this book if you can. It clarifies concepts and mysteries that have been part of the entire sequel trilogy, as well as detailing numerous new characters, worlds, and ideas featured in the film itself. These were just some of the most important elements I had time to read. I'm sure more details will make it online very soon. Also keep in mind that the film was written with these facts as part of the intended history.

Dino laying down deep dive SW lore while reg and I squee over silly puppets in the corner.

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Is this better or worse than the last one?

Much, much better. The only valid criticisms of this film are caused by the shoddyness of the last one.

Went with the twins last night, we all enjoyed it, if not blown away. Definitely want a rewatch, as there’s a lot I’m sure I missed, as it was densely packed with plot and action.

I thought they could’ve strung out the Kylo/Rey resurrection scene by having them resurrecting each other several times, whilst shouting ‘NO!’ louder and louder.

Andy wrote:

Honestly, this is going to be a repeat of the last thread.

Nah. I enjoyed this one overall!

Just seen it. What a load of meh.

It worked for me, because they start off not having control of it, the first time it’s intentional is when Ren grabs Rey’s necklace, it’s instinctive and rough around the edges. It’s not like they had it down to a fine art from the get-go.

I don't like that the Force just seems to be a magic plot device to do anything whenever needed. The snake healing thing, what made Rey think that was a good thing to try out then and there? Force voices?

They don't go on to heal them with their bare hands. There's also the ability to calm/control animals that is canon and would have been handy there too, and a lot less risky.