Streets of Rage 4 - The Grandest Upper - Out now! - The Bear and Badger

Eric

hunk wrote:

SoR remake 5.1
As kindof an anniversary compilation it just works.

If you still have your OG xbox you can download this to that too!

Moot_Geeza

SOR4 needs to come out swinging with a banging version of the intro music if it wants a full [10] from me.

tigersgogrrr

Controversial Take - SoR3 is far easier and better to play nowadays than SoR2 due to the dash and roll making movement feel far, far better.

No doubt SoR2 was the pinnacle in most ways, but going from 3 back to 2 you don't half feel slow.

ChopperByrne

Bare Knuckle 3 (for full uncensored homoeroticism) is definitely a better game to play, but the new character was shite, and the music is worse than 2.

SoR3 has the hideous colours for the characters too. At least BK3 has the classic colours.

tigersgogrrr

Zan can get to fuck, for sure.

hunk

The regional differences didn't make much sense either. The west got a terminator/RoboCop like plot while Japan got a nuclear terrorism threat story beat. They fucked up the difficulty curve for the west too.
All in all 3 plays better than 2 because of the expanded moveset but it doesn't feel significantly better to play. The color palette looks worse and the ost feels a bit too abstract. A case of three steps forward and two steps back.
The territorial changes must've eaten into the budget which at one point ran out. SoR3/BK3 feels a bit rushed to market. Especially Zan looks and feels underdeveloped. Not a bad game, just not as great as it's predecessor.

What I expect from 4? A fully developed and expanded combat system with combo's, supers, coop moves, blocks, reversals, slams, counters and the likes. Og characters, levels, and a banging ost should be the icing on top.

Beat 'em ups are not about difficulty, they're about mastering controls and the combat system. Get the gameplay loop right and it should be ok.

ChopperByrne

That's his name yeah. Utterly forgettable, and he made all weapons he picked up generic spark balls.

We lost Max for that cunt.

Also "Grand Uppah!" was changed to "Bare Knuckle!"

afgavinstan

2>1>3, easy.

JonB

I never played 3 that much because it didn't click, but I'm pretty sure 4 feels more like 2 to play.

You can expect pretty much the same move set from 2 with a few additions and some smart tactical mechanics. It's not a big departure, but there's plenty there in terms of maintaining combos and score building for the replay value.

ChopperByrne

Ah here, why is online co-op only two players?

I'll play locally with the kids, but want to play online with a few mates.

Funkstain

tigersgogrrr wrote:

No doubt SoR2 was the pinnacle in most ways, but going from 3 back to 2 you don't half feel slow.

Favourite thing about SoR2 - after attempting a no-extra-coin run on hardest mode with Axl, getting so close but fucking it up (probably getting hit by some no-mark Galsia just before the health meat pick-up), there was nothing more satisfying than going in on easy mode with Max and just beating the crap out of everyone on the first level, lumbering slow oaf that he was he could rip those Galsias, Signals and Donovans to shreds

tigersgogrrr

2 has always been the best, but 3 plays very well in many ways, coming back to it now. Characters having more special weapon dependent moves is great, the move set generally is very strong. Bosses aren't as good but the biggest issues are the weaker roster, the weaker stages, and the weaker music.

The run and roll were certainly good additions though.

tigersgogrrr

My god though, the intro music to the first game.

ChopperByrne

Think Max is the speedrunners choice for best times.

Funkstain

ChopperByrne wrote:

Think Max is the speedrunners choice for best times.

No doubt. His crush hold move had area of effect FFS! Then his ability to land effectively powerful punches both in front and behind of him in his sequence made clearing the areas of lesser goons effortlessly fast

tigersgogrrr

His shoulder charge is, like, the greatest thing ever.

afgavinstan

tigersgogrrr wrote:

My god though, the intro music to the first game.

regmcfly

This afternoon's listening sorted.

Funkstain

tigersgogrrr wrote:

His shoulder charge is, like, the greatest thing ever.

Ahaha the first time I realised it dealt block damage, and destroyed abadede good times

Moot_Geeza

ChopperByrne wrote:

We lost Max for that cunt.

Bit rude for a sig but I'm tempted.

RedDave2

ChopperByrne wrote:

Ah here, why is online co-op only two players?

Chopper engages Irish Mammy mode

tigersgogrrr

Funkstain wrote:

tigersgogrrr wrote:

His shoulder charge is, like, the greatest thing ever.

Ahaha the first time I realised it dealt block damage, and destroyed abadede good times

That was the trick - Catch an enemy - or enemies - at the right time with that move and you just deleted their health bar.

hunk

Just replayed SoR remake. Brilliant homebrew, it's that good.
Sega are idiots for not picking up on this. They should've hired those guys and rereleased it for pc, mobile and consoles. Tweak it here and there, add some 4player netplay coop and you would have a nice anniversary ed. release. Gameplay still holds up and would sell by the bucketload for a tenner.

RedDave2

hunk wrote:

Just replayed SoR remake. Brilliant homebrew, it's that good.
Sega are idiots for not picking up on this. They should've hired those guys and rereleased it for pc, mobile and consoles. Tweak it here and there, add some 4player netplay coop and you would have a nice anniversary ed. release. Gameplay still holds up and would sell by the bucketload for a tenner.

Yeah, it's a great package. I find it too long (too much of a good thing) but that's an easy fix.

hunk

A SoR mania ed as a precursor to SoR4 if you will. Sega's mismanagement of classic IP is heartbreaking. Let's hope SoR4 delivers the goods.

Moot_Geeza

Struggling to think of a game I could possibly want more right now. Only a new Mario Golf is getting anywhere close to it.

nick_md

I'd be well up for a Big Break videogame.

afgavinstan

In Games I Want To Have A Sequel, SoR is absolutely top 5.

Outrun, Power Stone, Ridge Racer, Virtua Tennis would round it out.

TWO DAYS

afgavinstan

Now can't get the Big Break theme tune out my head, what a fingerwagger

Moot_Geeza

If only it was a game son.

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