EuroVision 2021 - Final on May 22nd! Be there and BE FABULOUS! - The Bear and Badger

DrewMerson

Shenanigans, then.

EvilRedEye

DrewMerson wrote:

Shenanigans, then.

I guess if you’re a Zionist, you’re highly motivated to give the maximum number of votes you can to a single country (Israel) whereas anti-Zionists weren’t mobilised behind a particular country, if they even voted at all due to boycotting. So you’ve maybe got Zionists all voting for Israel 20 times each and anti-Zionists voting for different countries perhaps only a single time.

poprock

A quick look at Twitter says there were a lot of people voting just to ‘stick it to the wokes’. Tomorrow’s Telegraph front page has the Israeli singer being ‘brave’ for singing despite the protests …

EvilRedEye

Apparently the winner broke the trophy and injured his hand.

Wookienopants

poprock wrote:

A quick look at Twitter says there were a lot of people voting just to ‘stick it to the wokes’. Tomorrow’s Telegraph front page has the Israeli singer being ‘brave’ for singing despite the protests …

FFS.

poprock

EvilRedEye wrote:

Apparently the winner broke the trophy and injured his hand.

I thought I saw that. Snapped the base right off.

davyK

The Swiss act was impressive. Fluffy jacket, skirt, spinning tops and a big voice. Eurovision.

EvilRedEye

Apparently Netherlands gave Israel 12 in their public vote?!?!?

davyK

Swiss got their 12.

Edit... Public? Heh.

Rev

Seems like this telephone vote was some insane project to legitimise Israel being bastards.
I'm sure the expenses forms of the Israeli goverment's international operations are going to be a bit high on Monday morning.
The zionists decided to gang together and push this as a political vote which is why they got so many 12s for the phone vote. It still wasn't enough.
though hearing stories about the press bullying contestants. looking for an excuse to play the victim card. Including insulting the Dutch contestant over his dead parents. What kind of scum does that?
Glad they didn't win.

g.man

Incredible tech + Mad Skills

LivDiv

Very impressive. I know those things are counter weighted but they still weigh a ton.

equinox_code

I didn't watch. But i did glance over at the BBC news ticker when i saw this thread filling with posts. Their correspondent reported that "some boos as well as cheers could be heard in the arena" when Israel performed.

Having since seen the reality of what actually happened, it encapsulates the reality of BBC impartiality quite nicely.

EvilRedEye

equinox_code wrote:

I didn't watch. But i did glance over at the BBC news ticker when i saw this thread filling with posts. Their correspondent reported that "some boos as well as cheers could be heard in the arena" when Israel performed.

Having since seen the reality of what actually happened, it encapsulates the reality of BBC impartiality quite nicely.

Tbf, this tracks with stuff I’ve seen from social media about the semi-finals and rehearsals. While there were audible boos, it sounds like quite a lot of the stadium audience had bought into the whole apolitical contest and were just cheering everything.

equinox_code

Might be right. Like i say, i didn't watch. Although from the phone recording youtube clips i saw uploaded afterwards, the booing definitely sounded quite a bit louder

g.man

Oh they totally remixed and redubbed the audio to remove the boos in the arena for much of the show. Didn’t do a very good job of it either tbh, but that’s nothing to do with the BBC, they just get the feed they’re given from the event.

poprock

Yeah, what G said. The cheering over Israel was blatantly fake - overdubbed badly. But that’ll have been done by the event people, not the BBC. The Beeb just use the feed they’re given.

For sure the BBC could have said something about it though. Graham Norton’s commentary could have included talking about that, and about the politics of the night. But it didn’t. And that should be the BBC’s shame.

davyK

g.man wrote:

Incredible tech + Mad Skills

It's only in retrospect that I consider the camera work - they were everywhere - up close etc. Thinking it about it now it was remarkable. I suppose the real complement is at the time you don't consciously notice it.

EvilRedEye

Thinking about it, the boos might have been louder at the final than the previous events as the Netherlands guy has been controversially kicked out at that point. The boos for Martin were definitely unanimous on the social media clips I’ve seen.

g.man

davyK wrote:

g.man wrote:

Incredible tech + Mad Skills

It's only in retrospect that I consider the camera work - they were everywhere - up close etc. Thinking it about it now it was remarkable. I suppose the real complement is at the time you don't consciously notice it.

It's one of the main reasons I tune in every year. As a technical production, it's pretty much the benchmark in the industry. Never mind the artists, think of the amount of coordination and rehearsal that goes into making this show. The steadicam operators have to work blind, without their focus puller on stage with them, so there's literally no-one there to stop them taking one step back too far and going arse over tit off the stage. It's not just their work on the screen either, it's the clearing for the next shot so they're never visible, then getting back in position for their next shot.
It's an incredible achievement, and if you're watching closely you'll usually see cameras in the back of shot at some point in the show, but not his year. It was pretty much flawless.
Bonus points have top go to the stage hands who also constantly had to rejig staging and props during performances without being visible in any shots. It's mind boggling really.

Paul the sparky

Do you find yourself admiring the camera work in porn too, G? Must be hard to maintain focus on those tight zooms

g.man

I really couldn't say...

Paul the sparky

On another tangent, did you know there were not one but two lense wipes which made the cut in the film The Abyss?

Wookienopants

Paul the sparky wrote:

On another tangent, did you know there were not one but two lense wipes which made the cut in the film The Abyss?

Haha, yea I saw that last week. Amazing

g.man

I did know that

digi

So as I had to leave to go walk wife home when this was on live and she missed it all.
We are now rewatching from start up to Ukraine act 2.
Wife says rapper girl looks like winner nessa from previous competition.

digi

Lithuania there, guy sylvestrie has a nose clasp and a tattoo of his nose clasp.
Dick!

digi

Got to say its less fun without being here with the live commentary.

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