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Bollockoff

So how long till it's just Nintendo and Microsoft?

Paul the sparky

That sounds shit to me.

[Deleted User]

Bollockoff wrote:

So how long till it's just Nintendo and Microsoft?

And Valve. arrrrrgh no he didnt!

Brooks

Here Lieth A Last Guardian.

Mod74

It'll be a launch title for the Samsung Playstation.

hylian_elf

@Brooks: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Sasukekun

Mod74 wrote:

It'll be a launch title for the Samsung Playstation.

to be honest, if Samsung did a console they'd integrate it into TVs surely?

Mod74

I don't think we're at a stage when console standard graphics could be put inside a TV just yet.

[Deleted User]

I can't see it as a model that would work unless there is a stand alone console too.

How many people would want to or could afford buy a new TV just to have the console? Uptake would be slow and small.

Roujin

Mod74 wrote:

I don't think we're at a stage when console standard graphics could be put inside a TV just yet.

At large format TV surely easily contains the space round the back to fit the gubbins of a PS3 though?

In fact I'm surprised that Sony haven't actually done this on their top end TV's already.

I_R

Bad enough sending your PS3 or 360 away for repair, you don't want it attached to your TV when it goes.

acemuzzy

Liveinadive wrote:

Bollockoff wrote:

So how long till it's just Nintendo and Microsoft?

And Valve. arrrrrgh no he didnt!

And Ouya. Obviously.

[Deleted User]

acemuzzy wrote:

Liveinadive wrote:

Bollockoff wrote:

So how long till it's just Nintendo and Microsoft?

And Valve. arrrrrgh no he didnt!

And Ouya. Obviously.

Boom!

Bollockoff

Caught the new Hunter multiplayer game mode for Crysis 3. Actually looks really fun with 2 Nanosuit equipped players against 14 Cell Troopers who are trying to GET TO DA CHOPPA.

dynamiteReady

Fucking selfish bastards...Â

http://c-techworld.com/?p=197

hylian_elf

AI and combat lead designers at Irrational quit.

Bioshock Infinite gonna be ok, you reckon? Hope so, I want it to be good.

[Deleted User]

I've a feeling Bioshock has been delayed because of competition despite what they say.

AJ

dynamiteReady wrote:

Fucking selfish bastards...Â http://c-techworld.com/?p=197

I'd actually like more companies to do this.

dynamiteReady

While I'm paying for these things, I don't agree.Â
If I become the best Halo player eva, and decide to publish a book (with screenshots) called;

The Bags' Under Your Eyes*

Then I, and I alone should profit from that (well... The publishers and authors, anyway). I'd want Microsoft's blessings for doing so, but if they want to be dicks, then fine.

To what legal contract might a journalist subscribe, when one wants to review a game or write a feature?

*Or something...

[Deleted User]

You will be profiting off their artwork though, via screen shots etc.

It's not just games that are covered in this way, literally every image is covered by copyright laws that state you have to seek permission for using them (unlees stated otherwise by the owner), it's nothing new. I think it's fair enough that the people who create something are entitled to protect that thing and profit from it too.

WorKid

What about fair use?

dynamiteReady

You see, I was going to bring audio clearances into this argument but then we'd really be stringing it...
I think the law should move on slightly to take derivative work into account...

You take the sum of the new work, attempt to judge whether it can survive without the work from which it was derived, and whether the 'base' work suffers from the existence of the derivative...

Once my rule is law (Bwahaha!), then Youtuber's would have the right to diddle whole day. And as a bonus,
Dan Brown's work would beÂ punishable...

Rather than merely punishing, as things currently stand.

Choke

WorKid wrote:

What about fair use?

For fair use to apply you would need to comment on the game, not simply modify and re-sell it. Through the eyes of copyright law, these videos are akin to revising parts of Harry Potter and selling it on Kindle. And no, they don't straightforwardly benefit Microsoft but risk damaging the brand by mixing it in with amateur frat-boy hysterics.

AJ

Quite, and for a derivative work to belong to you, rather than the original creator, you need to haveÂ contributedÂ more to it than the originator. Suggesting that a film of you playing a game counts as this is laughable.

Mod74

Choke wrote:

What about fair use?

For fair use to apply you would need to comment on the game, not simply modify and re-sell it. Through the eyes of copyright law, these videos are akin to revising parts of Harry Potter and selling it on Kindle. And no, they don't straightforwardly benefit Microsoft but risk damaging the brand by mixing it in with amateur frat-boy hysterics.

Um, you're still allowed to use footage for whatever you want. Frat boy antics or your "top 5 reasons Halo sucks balls" video. What they're saying you can't do is profit from it. Which seems basically fair enough.

If your plan to feed your family is based on YouTube views then maybe you need to rethink your career. Or use a different game. If this means I see one less Ad By Google then super.

If you're an artist who wants his work to be seen you'll forgo the ad revenue.

What EA are doing is saying it's fine to run ads, as long as they get the revenue. Which does indeed suck massive balls. I'd have to question whether I wanted to put time into creating videos if someone else is creaming the revenue. No one getting revenue is easier to swallow.

dynamiteReady

How about those PD football clip compilations that focus on a particular player?
Would you say that the player, the club, or perhaps even FIFA itself, should claim on those?

I mean it's not particularly well edited, is it? Not that the number of viewers has any bearing on that...

ChattinWithChet

If your plan to feed your family is based on YouTube views then maybe you need to rethink your career

Heh.

The profit bit is the biggest bother, and kind of stamps all over whatever free culture gubbins can be put forward in defence.

[Deleted User]

@dynamite
Those football clips will likely belong to whatever company paid for the rights to host that match. Unless they have since been sold on to a third party.

How much would go to them or Fifa or whoever else will depend on the contract negotiated. I would strongly guess the player gets no royalties however they are compensated through their pay instead, hence the huge salaries players are on.

Sure g.man will know more on that side of things.

dynamiteReady

Liveinadive wrote:

Those football clips will likely belong to whatever company paid for the rights...

Aye. That did slip my mind. Besides, them sports dudes have innumerable stakeholders nowadays anyway, but that doesn't alter the point I'm trying to make all that much.

Here's another poser (because I like stupid similies)...

If I take a whole series of Delia Smith reruns, mack' all herÂ recipes, then open a
restaurant off the back of that knowledge... If she finds out, can she go all gansta' on my clart?Â

I accept that this is rather different to the Microsoft game thing... The true equivalent to that, would see me using brand names on the menu of my fictional eatery.

[Deleted User]

I believe so, it would be down to her lawyers to prove that is what you have done though. It would be extremely difficult however.

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