Nick wrote:I'll have to disagree with you if you don't think shows like this are bad for the music industry. Take away huge slices of force-fed popular music and there's a lot more room for everyone else to maneuver.Paul the sparky wrote:Proper musicians have as good a chance now as they ever had. If they're good they'll be successful, if they're shite they won't. That was true before the X Factor, it's true during its stint on tv, and it will be true long after Simon Cowell is in his grave.
Nick wrote:What were you guys listening to when you were 11? When I was 11 I was listening to things like Rage, Cypress Hill, Radiohead's first album and a band called Soul Coughing - the reasons for that were purely that I had two older brothers and I liked the sounds they were playing. If you took away the media bombardment through TV, radio and endless newspaper gossip articles wouldn't we free up these kids' brains to develop their own tastes from other influences?
Nick wrote:Not really sure what you're saying, sorry Matty. Those influences I mentioned didn't define my tastes which are quite different now. If my early influences had been x factor type pop perhaps I wouldn't have needed to explore other avenues, it would all just be spoon fed to me in a depressing stream of paparazzi shots, autotune vocals and key change choruses.
M0stly harm13ss wrote:@Tempy I'm not convinced the music excludes people, but the sniffy culture around it does (i.e. look at my taste, it's so much better and more refined than yours). I'd like to give people credit for not having awful taste, but just not being able to easily find good music without being sneered at.
Nick wrote:- but essentially my stance is "I wish there was less music that made me want to throw myself under a moving vehicle". I don't really have much more than that to add to the debate, carry on : )
Some people want to throw themselves under a bus when they hear Radiohead. Different strokes innit?Nick wrote:Edit: Everything you guys say makes sense, and it's kinda interesting to find out people's influences - - but essentially my stance is "I wish there was less music that made me want to throw myself under a moving vehicle". I don't really have much more than that to add to the debate, carry on : )
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