I always reach for The Lighter:

You know, it'd be justice to see England as a colony now.

Yep, good to have some good news. Plus it means that we should stop receiving emails with half-baked schemes for rescuing them with a request that we send them onto the relevant authorities.

Yossarian wrote:

Yep, good to have some good news. Plus it means that we should stop receiving emails with half-baked schemes for rescuing them with a request that we send them onto the relevant authorities.

That would have been amusing. Its an interesting engineering challenge to think of how to solve it, but we dont have movie tech, geology is complicated, and people are fragile.

And any cave is going to be pretty unique in its own challenges. 

Hopefully all the divers are out soon, and the family of the one who died are afforded the care and respect they deserve.

None of them really matched up to Musk’s suggestion of a sub with an iPod pocket TBF.

Unlikely wrote:

Fuck Elon Musk and his PR stunt.

Exactly this. There are genuinely people out there in the world who think he is responsible for any part of this rescue despite the fact all he did was pull a publicity stunt with an unworkable solution, then turn up late and promote SpaceX.

Elon Musk is the latest in a long line of magnificent bullshitters. I suspect he owes a large chunk of his success to the people around him, but has found it's easier to get things done (and certainly easier to get yet more cash) if you perpetuate the myth that it's all down to his own singular "genius".  He's the P.T.Barnum of technology.

Which is fine, although I can't help but wonder whether all that money might still have been invested into similar technologies in a parallel universe in which Musk didn't exist - and whether it might have gone to making it available to people other than the insanely rich.

Ach, but at least he/his firm makes stuff, rather than spinning extra money out of thin air with debt derivatives and whatever new bullshit schemes the financial sector has come up with.

Gremill wrote:

tin_robot wrote:

Elon Musk is the latest in a long line of magnificent bullshitters. I suspect he owes a large chunk of his success to the people around him, but has found it's easier to get things done (and certainly easier to get yet more cash) if you perpetuate the myth that it's all down to his own singular "genius".  He's the P.T.Barnum of technology. Which is fine, although I can't help but wonder whether all that money might still have been invested into similar technologies in a parallel universe in which Musk didn't exist - and whether it might have gone to making it available to people other than the insanely rich.

What Tesla are doing to communities in Nevada is disgusting, siphoning off millions in tax breaks that would’ve been used for maintaining public services. He’s a complete charlatan - maintaining the illusion of business acumen and success by using public funds to drive his business. He’s the Donald Trump of tech, and an cunt.

Is there a link for some further reading on this?

Cheers pal

Yes, cuntishness has helped him practically skip past lobbying from American oil and American car manufacturers, which is frankly a minor miracle. He certainly hasn't invented anything new but he has allowed, finally, for electric cars to enter the American mainstream.

This should have course been done years ago but it took someone like Musk to do it. It's becoming so popular now that Tesla could easily fail and electric cars are still going to be the main vehicles on US roads in 10 - 15 years. It's quite an achievement.

two more tories quit the party over brexit. both vice chairs.

May as well be the tea lady.

If the entire Conservative party could just fuck off in a huff that would be perfect.

Newsnight are in Wellingborough where Tory campaigners have downed leaflets because everyone is a Brexiteer mentalist.
Wellingborough is up the road from me, it is an absolute shit hole, I'm not surprised they wanted to leave, they probably thought it meant leave and go anywhere but here.