GooberTheHat wrote:Facewon wrote:So Venezuela heh....
Seems to be business as usual for US meddling, but it is one of those ones where the discussion in country is more tricky than that.
Meanwhile, Twitter was useful randomly and brought to my attention Smedley Butler. Who has some quotes that are amazing.
See quoted pics here.....
https://twitter.com/LFCKV/status/1088298596255047680?s=19
Reckon I'll give this a read in full.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Don't forget Russia propping up the current government.
This was more to do with their being scope for a proxy war/conflict that what I think you think I meant.Armitage_Shankburn wrote:GooberTheHat wrote:Facewon wrote:So Venezuela heh....
Seems to be business as usual for US meddling, but it is one of those ones where the discussion in country is more tricky than that.
Meanwhile, Twitter was useful randomly and brought to my attention Smedley Butler. Who has some quotes that are amazing.
See quoted pics here.....
https://twitter.com/LFCKV/status/1088298596255047680?s=19
Reckon I'll give this a read in full.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Don't forget Russia propping up the current government.
Oh gawd.
That site receives funding from the venazuelan government doesn't it?Facewon wrote:
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:He is the elected fucking president!
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:And that is exactly what I think it is.
Facewon wrote:
Venezuela's opposition alliance called on the United Nations on Monday not to send observers to the presidential election on May 20 to avoid legitimizing a poll it says is rigged in favor of Socialist President Nicolas Maduro.
GooberTheHat wrote:They royally fucked up their own oil industry themselves though. Their were no sanctions on that and they still fucked it up through incompetence.
Diluted Dante wrote:GooberTheHat wrote:They royally fucked up their own oil industry themselves though. Their were no sanctions on that and they still fucked it up through incompetence.
I thought that the problem with their oil industry was that the price of oil crashed?
On 20 May, elections took place in Venezuela with the highest abstention rate in a presidential election in the country over the last decades.
These elections could have been a crucial opportunity for all Venezuelan citizens to express, through a democratic, free and transparent process, their political will and thereby determine the future of the country.
However, presidential and regional polls went ahead without a national agreement on an electoral calendar and without complying with the minimum international standards for a credible process, not respecting political pluralism, democracy, transparency and rule of law. Major obstacles to the participation of opposition political parties and their leaders, an unbalanced composition of the National Electoral Council, biased electoral conditions, numerous reported irregularities during the Election Day, including vote buying, stood in the way of fair and equitable elections.
Therefore, as advanced in our statement of April 19th, the EU and its member states will consider the adoption of adequate measures.
It is more urgent than ever that the Venezuelan government takes concrete steps to fully respect the country’s Constitution and create the conditions that will allow all relevant political and social actors to play an active part in addressing the considerable challenges with which their country is faced. We call on the Venezuelan government to release all political prisoners.
Venezuela urgently needs a political solution to end the current crisis and, first and foremost, to deliver on its people most pressing humanitarian needs. The EU reiterates the need to restore the democratic process, and the importance that the country works towards a political and truly negotiated solution.
GooberTheHat wrote:Facewon wrote:
Probably? But the claims it's making seem like I could verify them if I so desired.
I mean, I'm with you on source checking, but we could play that game with nearly all sources.
Facewon wrote:GooberTheHat wrote:Facewon wrote:
Probably? But the claims it's making seem like I could verify them if I so desired.
I mean, I'm with you on source checking, but we could play that game with nearly all sources.
We are extremely concerned about the situation in Venezuela, but it is clear that Nicolás Maduro is not the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
The election on 20th May was deeply flawed; ballot boxes were stuffed, there were counting irregularities and the opposition was banned. This regime has done untold damage to the people of Venezuela, 10% of the population have left Venezuela such is the misery they are suffering.
So the United Kingdom believes Juan Guaido is the right person to take Venezuela forward. We are supporting the US, Canada, Brazil and Argentina to make that happen. I will be meeting Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Pompeo later this afternoon to discuss this further. But for anyone in the UK who thinks that Venezuela is an example, who thinks that we should be adopting the policies supported by the discredited Maduro regime, they need to look at their TV screens and think again. This regime has caused untold suffering to its people.
GooberTheHat wrote:Facewon wrote:Venezuela's opposition alliance called on the United Nations on Monday not to send observers to the presidential election on May 20 to avoid legitimizing a poll it says is rigged in favor of Socialist President Nicolas Maduro.
hunk wrote:Larry's impression was my first impression as well. Trump smells oily.....
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