Metroid General Thread - The Queen of Video Land - The Bear and Badger

Kow

Your standards are nigh on inhuman though.

JonB

Brooks wrote:

I have little confidence they can pull this series back towards good.

Me neither, but Zelda seems to have surpassed expectations, so...

The problem has been this turn towards world-building, back story and character development. They've got to knock that shit on the head (not least because it was done so badly). Isolation and uninterrupted exploration are non-negotiable for a good Metroid IMO.

Tempy

Corruption ended all that Phazon stuff so it may well be a fresh start

dynamiteReady

JonB wrote:

I have little confidence they can pull this series back towards good.

Me neither, but Zelda seems to have surpassed expectations, so... The problem has been this turn towards world-building, back story and character development. They've got to knock that shit on the head (not least because it was done so badly). Isolation and uninterrupted exploration are non-negotiable for a good Metroid IMO.

Metroid aways gave a hint of a much larger, Star Wars like worl... ummm... Galaxy...

Some space-faring/planet-hopping would be an interesting addition to the series, even if it's not initially welcome.

Kow

No it wouldn't. Talk of Star Wars, or extended universes ftm, is poison

Tempy

Nah, one planet please.

dynamiteReady

Tempy wrote:

Nah, one planet please.

I'll see what I can do...

Tempy

You're right that there were definitely hints to a larger universe at hand, but that's all they needed to be.

Planet hopping was one of Corruption's flaws.

dynamiteReady

One of the things I really like about BotW, is how it completely invalidates the idea of using literary innuendos to artificially inflate the gameworld.

Metroid could well benefit from the kitchen sink art approach Nintendo applied to Zelda.

Tempy

I feel dense but I don't follow

afgavinstan

Was about to sell my 2DS but that remake got me thinking otherwise. I presume it'll run like a dog on it though, a la Hyrule Warriors?..

retroking1981

afgavinstan wrote:

Was about to sell my 2DS but that remake got me thinking otherwise. I presume it'll run like a dog on it though, a la Hyrule Warriors?..

I don't recall any talk of new 3DS enhanced so it should be fine I think.

dynamiteReady

Tempy wrote:

I feel dense but I don't follow

I didn't put it very well, but what I mean, is that a good number of action adventure games will tell you of places that exist to support the in game story, but the game designers never give you the chance to visit them.

What I like about Zelda the most, above all other features, is how if an NPC talks about 'Archos Cavern', or some shit, it very likely exists with the game itself, and with some skill/determination, you can visit it.

In the Metroid games, there's always a little backstory as to how Samus came to be stranded in the latest episode. Those backstories always appear to namedrop locations that you never get to visit in the game itself.

Changing that, I think, would be as interesting to the developers, as I think it would eventually be to us.

I'm imagining a tighter, far more entertaining No Mans Sky, basically.

Tempy

The only "proper" Metroid that isn't all primarily in one location is Corruption though.

I think a dense and well constructed Zebes/Aether/SR388/TallonIV style location would be far preferable to hopping around planets. Zelda has already done big open expanses and exploration, Metroid should be twisting caverns and labyrinthine bases.

We'll have to see, but namedropping Zebes or Tallon in an opening crawl does nothing to harm my immersion in what is essentially a dungeon crawl.

Blue Swirl

Not one, but two new Metroid games? And one is Prime 4, to boot?

Moot_Geeza

Agree with one main location. Thinking you may have seen a morph ball hole halfway up a wall somewhere on the second star to the right, only to get there and discover you were mistaken could be a wee bit irritating. I've only played Fusion properly, but tight design appears to be something the series thrives on, rather than infinite expanses filled with stuff to do as an afterthought.

afgavinstan

retroking1981 wrote:

afgavinstan wrote:

Was about to sell my 2DS but that remake got me thinking otherwise. I presume it'll run like a dog on it though, a la Hyrule Warriors?..

I don't recall any talk of new 3DS enhanced so it should be fine I think.

That's the thing, Hyrule Warriors didn't have any indication before launch, or on the box it needed/had it. It was reading reviews n ting before I attempted to buy it that warned me off. I think the same may be the case for Smash Bros..

Tempy

Best off just waiting for reviews then I reckon

afgavinstan

Pours water over my CE preorder. Ho hum.

Tempy

Or pre-order it and if it doesn't work, sell it for MIGHTY profit?

retroking1981

The Metroid track record is pretty solid tbf.

Other:M has its haters but let's remember... that was Team Ninja.

regmcfly

afgavinstan wrote:

Pours water over my CE preorder. Ho hum.

Where'd you get that cheeky preorder?

afgavinstan

Oh I haven't even looked if it's live. Just know the sku is A Thing.

regmcfly

It ain't up on anything but I'm keen on this one

RamSteelwood

Does metroid need to be 'prime'? could it have been a new story? Or does it just mean 3d first person explorer?

regmcfly

I suspect the title is more skewing to let you know it's a first person game

[Deleted User]

The galaxy is never at peace but they always throw it in.

hylian_elf

I thought the whole Prime and Phazon shit got resolved in 3.

Could be a prequel! Like how the Metroid Prime came about or whatever.

[Deleted User]

Can't say I am overly fussed about what the story is as long as it doesn't interfere with the gameplay.
I played the whole Prime trilogy and can't remember anything of any of the story.

hylian_elf

Story never did get in the way in Prime 1 for example but it was there if you wanted it, so I think same approach would be nice. Just not too much scanning please...

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