I'll have lala land.

Nice one, ta.

Bob wrote:

Tempy wrote:

I was fairly underwhelmed by Heat's shootout when I watched. it's really fucking loud, but that's about it. Only film I ever got asked to turn down when I was staying at my parents.

Did you see it at the cinema or on tv?

Errrrrrr.
Are you seriously questioning a man who wrote Under Siege 2?

A man who wrote

Everything fell out my pocket man, the only thing I got in my pocket....is your ass!

Dark Soldier wrote:

Just bin Batman for ten years at least, how people ain't tired of Batman/Spiderman reboots, fuck knows.

I'd still rather someone reboot superman but batman needs to absolutely sit doon.

Go to bed

Dark Soldier wrote:

Just bin Batman for ten years at least, how people ain't tired of Batman/Spiderman reboots, fuck knows.

As much as I love Batman (a LOT), I have to agree. I haven't even bothered with BatSoup yet, there was no need to bring him back so soon after Nolans trilogy.

Yossarian wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

all other DC films.

Is the Dark Knight trilogy not included in this?

No, I meant DC as a film production company. As Marvel are now.

I feel like the DC films have been in the wrong order.

Superman going first is fine.
Second Suicide Squad, with the Batman bits, teasing Batfleck.
Third should have been Batman movie.
Fourth Batsoup.
Fifth Wonder Woman.
Then Justice League.

At some point they needed to show who the Flash is as well because I know who he is and was totally confused with the errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............


I cant be bothered, I had a point to make but they are all so bad it doesn't matter.

regmcfly wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

all other DC films.

Is the Dark Knight trilogy not included in this?

No, I meant DC as a film production company. As Marvel are now.

I thought they did produce the DK trilogy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics#DC_Films

Pre-extended universe, but DC productions, no?

Yossarian wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

all other DC films.

Is the Dark Knight trilogy not included in this?

No, I meant DC as a film production company. As Marvel are now.

I thought they did produce the DK trilogy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics#DC_Films

Pre-extended universe, but DC productions, no?

That's a new one to me- genuinely thought they just leant their credits to the title. Consider me corrected. But aye, the Dark knight films have the luxury of sitting in a bubble before the massive push for EU stuff. If you read about TDKR though there was influence from studios to start seeping in new Heroes, and Nolan really but back against it.

Looking at it as someone who doesn't really know either sets of comics (Superman, Turtles and Robocop Vs Terminator were the only comics I read as a kid, and I rarely bothered with the Justice League section that eventually appeared in Supes), there seems to be a touch of "how am I supposed to work with this?" to some of the lesser known DC characters.  Fair play to Marvel for getting stuff like Ant Man (who?), Dr. Strange (who?) and The Guardians of the Galaxy (who?) to work, but the bit in Batman Vs Superman where you see some of the other characters in brief CCTV footage smacked of 'you have 15 seconds to design a superhero'.  Aquaman with his trident, Jesus Christ.  Disney/Marvel are spinning plates and making it look easy because they've mastered the knockabout thing.  Deadpool was plenty of fun but those villains weren't fit to shine Gene Hackman's shoes, yet it didn't seem to matter all that much.  The DC universe seems a bit gloomier, which is fine for Gotham at night but doesn't appear to suit a melting pot of men in tights.

Deadpool was Fox.

Liveinadive wrote:

Genuine question. Is Batman dragging them down? To expand. Batman has generally worked best when a bit gritty. The Burton films are about as light in tone as has been deemed critically successful in modern day media, generally the darker Bats goes the more he is appreciated. I realise Superman has had some darker storylines but overall he is generally considered a lighter hero. A symbol of hope clad in primary blue, red and yellow. The Flash is a wise-cracker. Wonder Woman, again clad in primary is a leader and a symbol of powerful women. All the other DC characters I know of appear to lean towards the lighter side of comic books.  Yet the big issue is Batman is the one that has performed well on screen (even the shite like Batman and Robin near doubled it's budget in takings), Superman on the other hand has had very mixed earnings.

I think that tone is only part of it. There's also expectation, all those guys who vote the Nolan films as the greatest in the history of cinema were never going to be happy with the spread of average to bad DC films that have been made since. I don't know that Thor is much better, but fans care a lot less. I suspect one of the reasons that Suicide Squad is so bad is because the suits are now panicked and have lost confidence in their creative people.

John Wick 2.

Can't believe that the original was written with a sequel in mind but It expands The universe and story nicely, presumably setting up a third nicely,

On a side note what would a modern action movie have to do to get an 18 certificate these days?