This is a beautiful statement from a top lawyer with a serious grudge. Why in the fuck would he be allowed by Cummings to serve out his 3-month notice? Surely his super forecasting team should have predicted statements like this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/status/1304131578638012416

The "notwithstanding" is *chefskiss.gif*

I note the BBC in its wisdom of also placating bullies and blow-hards has turned their headline into "EU issues ultimatum", instead of "UK embarrasses itself beyond measure, EU shakes head forlornly" with a sub headline of "forget any trade deals you ever wanted to make, you're as bad as Russia and Turkey now only with none of their workforce or resources"

The government says Parliament is sovereign and can pass laws which breach the UK's international treaty obligations.

But like, should it?

The BBC has become almost as embarassing as these cunts.

Diluted Dante wrote:

The government says Parliament is sovereign and can pass laws which breach the UK's international treaty obligations.

But like, should it? The BBC has become almost as embarassing as these cunts.

Let's be clear - this is true. I mean, the words are weaselly - it would be more accurate to say Parliament is sovereign (no shit?) and can pass laws which break international laws - but it is true at least. This however:

mistercrayon wrote:

The brexit fans were pissing themselves when the government included the Gina Miller case in their justification.

is based on factual inaccuracy. The miller citation was maybe brazen trolling (so glad we've got an AG who has reduced the office to the level of internet trolling), but also totally irrelevant to the point Braverman was trying via legalese to make. It has been absolutely agreed that the ministerial code covers international law breaking, and the "justification" does not in any way, regardless of ministerial code violations, justify breaking international law, so serves no purpose other than to ruin Braverman's legal career totally and absolutely.

Is it meaningful that even the attorney general who managed the mental gymnastics to make prorogation okay In his mind resign over the Northern Ireland bill?

There are talks of pushing an ammendment to put parliament vetos on any changes to the WA.
This is absolutely the wrong direction, the bill should be stopped end of story.
The veto option plays perfectly into Johnson's hands.
He could break international law while pointing at a Parliament that failed to block via veto.

It is all or nothing. If a MP backs this bill under any form they are complicit.
There is no angle, no long game, no potential manipulation or mutation of this bill that ends well.

I suspect enough Tories will back it, because they are turbocunts, but I hope I'm wrong and they turn out to be just total cunts.

Probably worth reading up on how the National Socialist Party came to power and the methods they used.

I thought this was quite well put, from the Guardian this morning. Theories on why breaking laws is exactly what the Conservative party are all about, and why it actually wins them kudos from their existing supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/tories-breaking-law

To [Tory supporters], rule-breaking implies strength, and establishes status and dominion over others.

Yep.

I'm genuinely saddened by these groups. There are small seeds of them everywhere. We recently had a flair up with one in Dublin. Ireland for the Irish - I mean the fucking cheek of the irish complaining about people coming here for a better life. I'm not big on being a patriot but it was kinda sick and sad seeing the Irish flag being used as a rallying call for this type of mindset.

But I cant imagine looking back at the video of some of these people and seeing the anger on their faces, the words they are using, the viciousness of their actions - do they not see how they come across? how could you look at yourself and think that you are the righteous one?

I had a similar feeling when I watched a Louis theroux epsidoe on racism in America. There are such clear hate and nastiness in the words and actions of these people that I just can't buy the idea they are being misled or just don't see. In any movie, book, TV show, video game, this level of hate is always in the part of the bad guys.

RedDave2 wrote:

I'm genuinely saddened by these groups. There are small seeds of them everywhere. We recently had a flair up with one in Dublin. Ireland for the Irish - I mean the fucking cheek of the irish complaining about people coming here for a better life. I'm not big on being a patriot but it was kinda sick and sad seeing the Irish flag being used as a rallying call for this type of mindset.

Any one of those cunts needs to read the harrowing accounts of the Irish immigrants in the 19th century, crammed into coffin ships, trying to escape starvation, being pushed back onto the boats and beaten up in New York, Boston etc by crowds of angry locals. They were then kept in filthy ghettos where they died of disease and violence and hunger. But the same cunts who go the whole Ireland for the Irish route will talk proudly of Irish influence around the world, seemingly without any sense of irony.

It's also not true. The EU cannot give us a "free trade deal" on significantly different / better terms than any of its other free trade deals, it would damage the integrity of the EU irreparably and in any case would never be ratified by the 27.

We are being asked for the same things as any other third party trading partner, which was made clear in the WA delivered with such triumph by Bohnson &co, and has been clear to everyone for over a year (how many times was slimy Gove asked about Irish Sea border, and simply refused to answer or denied it, until he had to admit it?). this is not new, this isn't the EU stepping up negotiations or bullying us; this is simply our "government" being unwilling to pay the price for their short term gain last election.

The bill is far worse than "merely" breaking International treaty law. It gives carte blanche for ministers to in effect break any law they wish, for as long as they wish, without parliamentary scrutiny. It is an astonishing power grab with dire consequences for any of us wishing not to live in a temporary dictatorship, ruling by decree (as, of course, they do already - see the last set of regulations published twenty mins before deadline, using such useful legal terms as "mingling" to describe what one cannot do any more.)

The whole thing is such an extraordinary cluster fuck that one wonders what exactly it will take for the ludicrously polarised tribalism of our broken politics to come together to oust this bunch of utterly incompetent charlatans - I mean at least Hitler had a fucking plan

We are so far past the point of parody that I doubt anyone can even see it any more.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-rule-of-six-hunting-shooting-exemption_uk_5f5f4ad0c5b6b4850803110f

As long as he is wearing a mask