Ha!

Trump is shiting himself and it’s glorious.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/3/18123838/trump-tweets-mueller-cohen-stone

hunk wrote:

Unashamed stupidity on public display; Trump is a fascinating phenomenon. It's terrifying so many people are willing to vote for him no questions asked.

That's I thing I just don't get. How can anyone look at those posts and think "yep, that's the ranting of an innocent man with nothing to fear "?

Many probably see him as clever and resourceful for colluding to become President.

Trump's like Berlusconi - everyone laughs at him but to his followers all that stupid shit just makes him more of a regular guy - he says it like it is, sounds uneducated, likes the ladies etc - and not like those liberal elites. The fact he's a multi millionaire who'd sell them all for a dollar doesn't seem to matter either.

The more people laugh at him and repost his dumb tweets the more it goes in his favour. Obviously sometimes you just can't help but laugh, but overall I find it weird, whether it's Trump or Bush or whoever, that people are happy just chuckling away at some stupid shit they said, while they're busy instigating a resurgence of fascism or destroying whole countries.

I just think one day we'll wake up in a fascist regime and people will be all, "WTF happened? I thought we were all against this. I mean, look how many retweets my Trump parody posts get."

Not sure what else we can do from here, TBH. I did wave a sign around when he was in the U.K. at least.

monkey wrote:

I think a lot of his voters probably would do the same stuff if they were rich - gold elevators, private planes and Big Macs.

My God, He is actually a hip hop superstar!

Yossarian wrote:

Not sure what else we can do from here, TBH. I did wave a sign around when he was in the U.K. at least.

I don't think it's a case of doing anything really. Just that mockery and condescension are counterproductive when things are as bad as they are.

I mean, finding humour in this isn’t totally counterproductive for my mood.

A sense of humour is imo a valid way of coping with this shit. Yes, I know preaching to the choir,, social bubble amplification etc. isn't helping matters but the comedic absurdity element kinda keeps me sane in an insane world. I'm probably not alone in this otherwise Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah and Seth Meyers wouldn't have an audience.

But aye, we live in troubling times. Fake news, Brexit, Trump, Putin, Syria. The anxiety alone can kill you if you aren't careful.

Laughing at Trump hurts him. It's literally the only weapon we have.

JonB wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

What do you suggest instead?

Taking it seriously, I guess. I mean, I just struggle to see the humour in a lot of this Trump stuff now. And then you see that, say, Brazil has elected an actual fascist as its president. Or the Tory austerity has caused thousands of deaths. And where is the humour in that? I think just presenting the idea that this stuff matters and isn't just another show for our entertainment is important. There's a kind of sickness in the idea that even powerful arseholes fucking people over is just something else for us to consume, and even if nothing can be done it's surely preferable to not join in.

I absolutely agree that none of that is a laughing matter, but I don’t agree that it follows that you should never laugh at any of it. Laughing at these bastards gives you a tiny bit of power back over them, even if only in your own mind.

I don't think this is en echo chamber either; we're not reinforcing a set of flawed beliefs on here as we each have our own view of things, but we do support each other and have a place to go 'can you believe this shit' where the response will be 'not really no, it's madness' and that is a comforting thought.

Diluted Dante wrote:

Laughing at Trump hurts him. It's literally the only weapon we have.

Even if it bruises his ego a bit, it really doesn't hurt him. It works in his favour. There's a time for satire but we're past that now.

Yossarian wrote:

I absolutely agree that none of that is a laughing matter, but I don’t agree that it follows that you should never laugh at any of it.

I don't think it's a question of never laughing at any of it. It's more this social media culture of memes and amusing replies to tweets that get passed around, which is just not helpful. And I don't get it because what does it take to get people to react with actual anger nowadays?