Brexit: Boris' Big Belgian Bangers
  • Or a giant advert with video covering the screen with a secret x button.
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    Yossarian wrote:
    But yes, I understand if one extra click (turns out it is only one) to read the whole thing is too onerous for you. Clicking a link at the end of something, in order to read what’s revealed is clearly a difficult thing and I offer you my deepest sympathies.

    That one click could take you to a blog where the whole article could be written well, with paragraphs and formatting, images could be embedded into the article, along with any videos that support your story. You could even have a comment section below where everyone could discuss the article together, in one place, not spread out over 20 conversations on 20 tweets.

    Yes, but then if you aren’t using pictures and videos, your entire argument is only a paragraph long and you’re already logged into a medium where people can discuss, and share, your thoughts, why take it to a blog?

    If I click through to a blog and find a one or two paragraph argument, I tend to feel short-changed. If I’m going to a blog, I expect something longer and more considered. Finding an article that’s barely any longer than this post would be disappointing, for me at least.

    Besides which, the simple fact that this is how people are choosing to share, and they are, to my mind means that you’re cutting yourself off from an awful lot of knowledge by not following Twitter links. Your choice, obviously, but I feel pretty uninformed without it.
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    I follow them, but I find them less informative than they could be, and a more difficult way to digest that information than other mediums available.

    The authors of these threads either have much more interesting and in depth information, which they can't convey adequately in a series of tweets, in which case a blog (or other similar medium) would be preferable. Or they don't, which means that their fairly superficial scratch the surface rambling on twitter doesn't effectively inform, so either leaves the reader feeling short changed and lacking information, or worse, of the opinion that they are suddenly aware of all the facts be cause they read a twitter thread and are therefore somehow now an expert on the subject.
  • @yoss: You feel uninformed without Twitter?!
    Oh dear.
  • A big reason threads have taken off despite the vocal chagrin of many is that clickthrough rates on links are awful, you're talking about losing anywhere from 40 to 80% of eyes in the transition.
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    I follow them, but I find them less informative than they could be, and a more difficult way to digest that information than other mediums available.

    The authors of these threads either have much more interesting and in depth information, which they can't convey adequately in a series of tweets, in which case a blog (or other similar medium) would be preferable. Or they don't, which means that their fairly superficial scratch the surface rambling on twitter doesn't effectively inform, so either leaves the reader feeling short changed and lacking information, or worse, of the opinion that they are suddenly aware of all the facts be cause they read a twitter thread and are therefore somehow now an expert on the subject.

    I’ve learnt far more about the investigation into Trump, particularly about the legal processes and timelines from Abramson’s Twitter than pretty much every other source combined.

    If you don’t read these threads, then what exactly are you basing your claim that they can’t adequately inform on?
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    Actually, talking of Abramson, he uses pictures and videos in his threads, no blog required.
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    Yossarian wrote:
    I follow them, but I find them less informative than they could be, and a more difficult way to digest that information than other mediums available.

    The authors of these threads either have much more interesting and in depth information, which they can't convey adequately in a series of tweets, in which case a blog (or other similar medium) would be preferable. Or they don't, which means that their fairly superficial scratch the surface rambling on twitter doesn't effectively inform, so either leaves the reader feeling short changed and lacking information, or worse, of the opinion that they are suddenly aware of all the facts be cause they read a twitter thread and are therefore somehow now an expert on the subject.

    I’ve learnt far more about the investigation into Trump, particularly about the legal processes and timelines from Abramson’s Twitter than pretty much every other source combined.

    If you don’t read these threads, then what exactly are you basing your claim that they can’t adequately inform on?

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    Ah, fair play, my mistake.

    But seriously, are you really claiming that Abramson isn’t that informative? Is there anyone else doing a better job of informing people about the Trump investigation right now in any medium?
  • As it’s inconvenient to the writer, (and I’ve got no evidence for this), I reckon tweet threads are more succinct than an equivalent blog post would be. Which is good.
  • I'm torn on Twitter.
    I can see why people like Twitter as it kindof works like an auto indexer chopping up complex long texts into bite sized chunks.
    On the other hand it's also loved by morons like Trump with no attention span whatsoever who enjoy pressing enter sending their twittertwatter into the aether.
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  • You created Twitter?
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  • Johnson can't keep his fucking nose out of it can he? If May had any balls she'd fire him.
  • Feels more like she's keeping him there so he's tainted with the stink he made.
  • I think you give her too much credit.
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    Tempy wrote:
    you're talking about losing anywhere from 40 to 80% of eyes in the transition.

    That so many people are Twitter-locked is why Twitter sucks. The illusion of converse for the sake of advertising one's engagement to the widest audience. It's why celebs love it, as I'll hopefully tire of repeating soon.
  • The thing about social media metrics are that you’re largely measuring the unmeasurable. It’s an industry of making shit up and selling it to advertisers. Or at least selling meaningless numbers as if they’re valuable insights.

    Knowing how many people saw your tweet/ad/post sounds great, but the reality of knowing how many people probably scrolled straight past without reading it sounds much less impressive and much less worth paying someone for.
  • I follow a load of politics journalists and stuff and was reading a thread earlier where about three of them were all chipping in and having a conversation with each other, which isn’t a format you can get anywhere else really. It does have some uses.
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    Do you think that Twitter might be a bigger corp entity than Facebook? Facebook has the advantage of intertwined relationships, I guess.
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    monkey wrote:
    three of them were all chipping in and having a conversation with each other, which isn’t a format you can get anywhere else really.

    Wow, imagine that.
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  • monkey wrote:
    I follow a load of politics journalists and stuff and was reading a thread earlier where about three of them were all chipping in and having a conversation with each other, which isn’t a format you can get anywhere else really.

    You’re right. There’s no way that could happen on TV or radio.
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    monkey wrote:
    I follow a load of politics journalists and stuff and was reading a thread earlier where about three of them were all chipping in and having a conversation with each other, which isn’t a format you can get anywhere else really.

    You’re right. There’s no way that could happen on TV or radio.
    You don’t get to choose the people who are on tv and that you watch, the subjects are entirely generated by the broadcasters, you can’t instantly participate and so on.
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    Twitter's just a hobbled forum with celebrity mascots.

    People put up with it because it's the first massive general forum, whereas the ones we used previously were all specialised. And unlike those, the ability to follow and unfollow on a whim sets a precedent for intolerance as a convenience.
  • Twitter was genuinely revolutionary when it launched, as an SMS based service that approximated a mixture of web forum and RSS feed concepts without needing a computer or a net connection.

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