Is this not mega news?

“The end is simply the beginning of an even longer story”

Anyone else sick to the back teeth of hearing fisherman whinging?

Alright cunt, we'll just shut down the entire country so you pricks can catch some more fish we don't eat.
Farage's fault really for giving them a cod gomplex.

Plenty of it in the news leading up to and since the deal was agreed.

Thats not really what has happened with the fishing industry.
As far as I can see they will be entitled to a larger catch and retain zero tariff on that catch, the majority of which they sell to the EU.

LivDiv wrote:

Thats not really what has happened with the fishing industry.
As far as I can see they will be entitled to a larger catch and retain zero tariff on that catch, the majority of which they sell to the EU.

I kinda see it as possibly another way. The fishing community didn't get the full of what they wanted but they did get an improvement. However, while the spotlight is on them they are going to complain loudly so that additional supports and subsidies become available from the UK government.

Anyone who campaigned for this and is now complaining can get in the sea.

Well, you see, we must treat animals worse and produce shittier, cheaper meats if we’re going to compete on our own supermarket shelves with the shittier, cheaper meats about to start arriving from America after our brilliant trade deal with the US.

Well, not immediately …

On the fish thing. It’s a bit more nuanced I think. Remember that it’s the uk that was making such a political fuss about this, promising the nation that we’d have total control over our maritime area etc etc. And when Boris made his triumphant speech he rather oddly focussed on this “positive” part of the deal.

So we all know why: being able to glory in our “sovereign control” of our “great island nation’s” historic fishing waters is manna from heaven to the ears of brexiteers who have never been near a fishing boat in their lives, but have some weird obsession with our greatness at fishing.

But the detail of the deal is certainly in Europe’s favour, at least compared to what Boris and chums were claiming they were holding out for:

- over a period of 5.5 years, EU fleets will transfer 25% of their UK waters quotas to UK fleets
- a future negotiation will determine the next phase of transition, if any, following the initial 5.5 years

That doesn’t seem amazing to me, I think that’s a thorough victory for EU negotiators in fact.

So I sympathise with fishing leaders who thought they were getting the moon, and have got instead a pale reflection of it in a muddy puddle.

And in fact I support their bitching because anything which undermines Johnson’s relentless crowing (and his sycophantic press / media bigging him up) undermines his very existence as leader. If he’s gonna focus on his amazing fishing rights deal, then I’d like fishing leaders to tell those cheering brexiteers what a load of bollocks he’s talking

I wonder why they made such a deal. It seems bizarre that they would be so blase about financial services just remaining in the UK because we have some nice buildings.

djchump wrote:

US firms are already buying up cheap land in Wales and building massive indoor chicken farms.

I think you mean they’re investing in Britain proving all the gloomsters wrong and giving this country the vote of confidence that sourpuss treasonous Remainers refuse to.

Remainers will have to change their name. Gobackers? Returners?

monkey wrote:

Anyone who campaigned for this and is now complaining can get in the sea.

That's what fishermen tend to do

Which actual industry leaders were pro brexit? A small but vocal minority, I suspect. Even the media were only pro it cos it was an easy story to sell, they seemed latent xenophobia in their market, and their owners are in the 1% who might conceivably benefit. Hopefully they won't, however, and they'll find a way to U-turn the narrative.