Gatlin enters to massive boos! Get it up ye!

Fucking Bolt YASS!

That's not extra speed, it's everyone else slowing at a greater rate. All sprinters slow over the final third.

Carl Lewis' top speed was maybe a match for Bolt's (around 28 mph), but Lewis faded earlier. What Bolt loses at the start from his height he makes back in stride length, and he has great speed endurance.

EPO improves endurance, but it's only effective in the short-term (days) and a detection risk, IIRC (it doesn't help anaerobically by itself, so I'm guessing that Chambers took it for harder training). But WADA's testosterone limits invite all sprinters to dope up to their max, so long as you have your bloods monitored. Same with growth hormone - it's natural, so you can dose up without risking detection unless you go ham. Because moderate doping's undetectable, it's all a question of how much, not who.

@Verecocha probably knows a lot more about LR3 and the insulin stuff. SARM stacks, and so on.

Either legalise drugs, or erase all records (a soft erase with current records becoming unofficial) in concert with the introduction of effective testing. Carbon isotope ratios are good (caught Gatlin, I believe, who was doubtless on gear that wouldn't have shown on a typical test), but they're accused of being too expensive. Next to the massive amount of money in elite athletics, that sounds like corporate fear of killing their business to me.

And even if CIRs became mandatory (with bio passports for backup), urine's potentially open to masking agents, and then we're back to square one. Bloods; hairs; get creative. Passports are a great idea, but again, they're fallible insofar as testosterone and such can return to normal (with epi) before the effects wear off (post-cycle GH benefits are longish-term, also, as Vere attests). You'd have to test an athlete during a spike, and they're all happy to evade a couple of randoms (like points on a driving licence).

If you pumped a load of money into testing tech, I think you could probably catch up by 2028 or so. Sonographic kit for passports, maybe. But it's always hard to disprove gains, no matter their conspicuity, because we're dealing with outliers. Natural gains are in tandem with drug-assisted ones; in fact, the drugs are more on the healing side for increased training intensity towards self-made improvements.

Thing: after Bolt, you have to go to the tenth-fastest 100m time to find someone - Richard Thompson - who hasn't been caught. Seven have (Bolt appears twice), and Johnson, Chambers and Montgomery have been removed.

Escape wrote:

That's not extra speed, it's everyone else slowing at a greater rate. All sprinters slow over the final third.

It's a bit of both. Bolt peaks at 50-60m then stays more or less level for 20-30m. Others peak at the same time but then drop off faster. Where Bolt wins is in in the 50-80m zone where takes fewer paces than others and doesn't lose his turbo rockets as quick. A bloke on the telebox said so anyways.

Edit:- Just read your second post, you basically just said all this. Disregard.

I'd be a gold medal cert if only there was a Crossbar Challenge event.

Reminds me of this:

I say.

g.man wrote:

LADS! I gather Australia's finest is running in the 100m hurdles tomorrow. LADS! g.man

Wondered what happened to her...

The heavyweight boxing final though...

Kazakstan... It's like they're trying to wipe away the memory of Borat with every punch.

Rain absolutely battering down at the women's hockey. Turning into a wet tshirt contest.

Oof, just watched a Chinese pole vaulter have his first go after the rain delay and they didn't cover the bag so it looked like he'd landed in a pool. There's no way you could recover from being soaked like that for something like pole vault.
Very poor form Rio

This was some bullshit -


Boxing heavyweight final.

He was on the back foot getting pushed back the whole match, he got the odd shot in but there was no way he had the better of the Kazakh.