That Weird Time - The Bear and Badger

Eric

Jaco wrote:

Eric wrote:

Some great games there Andy. I'd add Motorhead and Loaded to that and I'd be done.

Motorhead. Heck that's a blast from the past! First game I owned on PS1... Scary clown guy from Loaded was a fave for sketching at the time too.

Same here, I painted this in 5th year at school for my GCSE art display. Looking back its a bit shit but I loved it at the time

AJ

Eric wrote:

AJ wrote:

I have found memories of Motorhead, too. Though I played it on PC, so the cars were hella shiny.

It still looks pretty good in a minimalist sort of way:

Man, that brings back memories. Ah, the little bounce at the start as the physics engine kicks in...

AJ

Fucking hell, the version of Motorhead on Steam is a port (maybe even emulated) of the PlayStation version. What kind of bollocks is that?

hylian_elf

davyK wrote:

Sega Saturn (it's all about the JP imports) Baku Baku Parodius series Athlete Kings Layer Section (aka Galactic Attack) Radiant Silvergun Marvel Super Heroes v Streetfighter Tempest 2000 Puzzle Fighter II Turbo Digital Pinball:Last Gladiators Bubble Symphony Saturn Bomberman Darius Gaiden DoDonPachi Christmas Nights Puyo Puyo 2 Fantasy Zone Outrun Twinkle Star Sprites Fighters Megamix Shanghai Triple Threat

Plus
Battle Garegga
Soukyogurentai
Waku Waku 7
Silhouette Mirage
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Street Fighter Alpha 3
King of Fighter '95 (most memorable for me but apparently '99 or '00 meant to be best)

Moot_Geeza

I wish Saturn emulation was reliable/not a ballache to get working. There are quite a few games I'd replay with save states.

cockbeard

SIlly question, would it not be possible to simply have all the games you want loaded into a different virtual drive, then tell the emulator which drive to load?? Just a thought, haven;t attempoted it on any platform since ten years ago when it really wasn't going to work anyay

Facewon

davyK wrote:

Mario Kart 64 (import though) Excitebike 64 (import though) Waverace 64 (import though)

Why Import, out of interest? Never had issues with PAL Waverace or mario. Don't think I ever played excite bike.

cockbeard

Could it be a 60Hz v 50Hz framerate thing?

Facewon

That's usual reason. Only ever heard about that with ps1 games though, tbh. Tekken 3 being well famous for it, innit. Man that was noticeable.

cockbeard

Well it was pretty noticeable back in the 16 Bit days. In fact one of my Megadrives had dipswitch on the top for switching between 50 and 60 Hz. So given that these consoles were technically still for use with CRT screens then it's probably something that continued. Or was it rendered obsolete by scart??

Moot_Geeza

Eric wrote:

Jaco wrote:

Eric wrote:

Some great games there Andy. I'd add Motorhead and Loaded to that and I'd be done.

Motorhead. Heck that's a blast from the past! First game I owned on PS1... Scary clown guy from Loaded was a fave for sketching at the time too.

Same here, I painted this in 5th year at school for my GCSE art display. Looking back its a bit shit but I loved it at the time

It's quite a bit better than anything I've ever drawn.

Yossarian

Surely if it's a question of Hz then all the games should say (import) after them.

cockbeard

True, also an irrelevance as far as emu goes. But if there are specific differences to gameplay, levels, enemy placemenst, difficulty then it's justifiable

Facewon

Yossarian wrote:

Surely if it's a question of Hz then all the games should say (import) after them.

Not necessarily, some games had the option of switching, some games just ran fine on either. PAL Tekken 3 was noticeably slower.

davyK

Facewon wrote:

Mario Kart 64 (import though) Excitebike 64 (import though) Waverace 64 (import though)

Why Import, out of interest? Never had issues with PAL Waverace or mario. Don't think I ever played excite bike.

Speed pure and simple. The import versions of these games in particular running at the higher frame rate felt very different and far more enjoyable.

Excitebike 64 is a brilliant game - silky smooth controls.

davyK

hylian_elf wrote:

Sega Saturn (it's all about the JP imports)
Baku Baku
Parodius series
Athlete Kings
Layer Section (aka Galactic Attack)
Radiant Silvergun
Marvel Super Heroes v Streetfighter
Tempest 2000
Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Digital Pinball:Last Gladiators
Bubble Symphony
Saturn Bomberman
Darius Gaiden
DoDonPachi
Christmas Nights
Puyo Puyo 2
Fantasy Zone
Outrun
Twinkle Star Sprites
Fighters Megamix
Shanghai Triple Threat

Plus Battle Garegga
Soukyogurentai
Waku Waku 7
Silhouette Mirage
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Street Fighter Alpha 3
King of Fighter '95 (most memorable for me but apparently '99 or '00 meant to be best)

Have Souky but haven't spent a lot of time with it. Garegga? I wish - 200 plus game that now. SFA3 isn't cheap now either but I suspect I'd balk at the prices most of my Saturn import games cost nowadays.

Yossarian

Fair play.

If I'm putting together some of these sets, and I expect I will, I'll be going for import on everything unless told not to.

Facewon

Cool. Don't recall hearing that at the time, but it makes sense.

davyK

Yossarian wrote:

Fair play. If I'm putting together some of these sets, and I expect I will, I'll be going for import on everything unless told not to.

Aye. PAL on the whole is a bollocks. Rare on N64 did us proud, and Nintendo often made an effort but it simply isn't worth messing about with PAL if starting out with pre-Dreamcast consoles or looking at ROMs. (Even then some PS2/GC/Oldbox and DC games didn't have a 60Hz mode).

F-Zero X is an excellent PAL port and feels quite speedy - but even that is slower than the NTSC versions. With something like Mario 64 which doesn't rely on speed it isn't really as much of an issue (but it still annoys me we did get shafted even on that game).

AJ

IIRC, some of the GameCube titles gave the option of either wide-screen or 60Hz, which was always a tough call.

Facewon

I never imported with n64.

Hammered Ps1 as I chipped and yarred the fuck out of it.

MGS release delay, Tekken 3 slowness, and then a bunch of games that never got released local.

Thrill Kill (not that I would have paid full wack). And I think Parasite Eve were the notables.

cockbeard

AJ wrote:

IIRC, some of the GameCube titles gave the option of either wide-screen or 60Hz, which was always a tough call.

Not sure it was really widescreen, just the bars to remove the extra lines at the top and bottom, but I think they were in the 60Hz versions, though memory might be failing me

AJ

I seem to remember it acting like a standard wide-screen signal, but my memory might be failing, too.

hunk

Tomb Raider and Resident Evil made quite an impression. Also Castlevania SotN.

davyK

AJ wrote:

IIRC, some of the GameCube titles gave the option of either wide-screen or 60Hz, which was always a tough call.

The only GC game I recall having widescreen as an option is F-Zero GX. You could have that with 50 or 60Hz though.

Some N64 games that used the expansion pak offered higher res but with letterboxing to keep the framerate up.

davyK

Excitebike64 came out very late in the N64's life so hardly anyone played it. The PAL version suffers a bit becuase of the lower framerate so importing is recommended. A shame this didn't get a Gamecube remake.

AJ

Nah, I'm sure there were plenty with wide-screen support. Spider-Man 2 was one, it's why I still have a GC copy alongside the Xbox one. Quite possible I'm imagining the choice between wide-screen and 60Hz, though.

hunk

DC was the first console to break the pal 50hz curse. Loved how everything was just full screen full speed.
It was weird how in Europe in the 90's almost every telly supported Scart rgb but consoles never fully utilised the standard. Crappy pal ports were everywhere.
If you've ever seen sf2 (snes/md) running in 60hz over scart rgb vs video component cable; you know what I mean. Difference is day and night.

hylian_elf

Yeah I played on my SNES then played on (and inherited) my brother's SFC. I was like WOW! The speed and the colours, my oh my!

cockbeard

It didn't have more colours, and it had bigger uglier scanlines

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