Moot, would you sack ole? Do you think it would make a difference as the squad is so utterly bereft of quality.

The way I see it is who are you going to attract to the club with a manager whose best achievement is a decent run when caretaker.

It's not just wages that secure a player, if they are good enough they can go to any number of other clubs for the same. They need to be sold on a philosophy. It's about 3-5 years of a career that will run less than 20 years. Do they want to spend that time at a club in disarray with a manager who is very close to hitting his ceiling, a squad that are poor yet get new deals or want away and are uninterested in the club.

It has to be the people at the top that go for any meaningful change to happen.

500m for madisson

Dinostar77 wrote:

Moot_Geeza wrote:

I really don't see the logic in paying £30m for a 16 year old centre midfielder. He won't be ready to start games for us for fucking ages, surely. By the time he approaches world class (let's go with the fanciful notion that this happens) he'll be barely out of his teens and free to choose his next destination based on the highest wage bidder. I get investing in youth, but you've got to be vaguely sensible with it. He's not even sixteen and a half.

According to duncan castles, Birmingham will sell to highest bidder with the caveat that the player remains with them for next 18 months. His parents want him to play regular first team football, so if utd or any other club bought him he would be a investment for the future. By all accounts, hes one of these "special talents" ala a teenage rooney, joe cole, etc. Been scouted by teams across europe so must be good.

That's a ridiculous clause and I can't see how any buying club would agree to it. End of current season perhaps but I'd want to be training him myself surrounded by better players and teaching him the way that I want him to play. Probably would loan him out next season as well but Birmingham might get a preferential destination clause but nothing more than that. 18 months is a long time, injury, money, loads of things can stall a players development, madness

Dinostar77 wrote:

Moot, would you sack ole? Do you think it would make a difference as the squad is so utterly bereft of quality.

Nah. The team only purrs with Pogba in it and the midfield only has a backbone with McTominay fit. Plus it needs both Rashford and Martial on the pitch to be considered much of a goal threat. If we'd had less key injuries we'd be 4th imo, but Poch could come in tomorrow and he'd still have to pick one or two starters from Periera, James, Mata and Lingard. A new manager could feasibly steer the team much further down the table with the players available.

I'd like to see Ole use James as an impact sub though, because his ineffectiveness is rapidly becoming annoying.

Basically, *SHRUG*. We need a couple of signings now to cling on the the faint glimmer of Europa League hope.

Woodward’s already said results on the pitch are no impediment to making money so I doubt anyone at the top of the club is that arsed as long as the money still rolls in (which it will).

MOTD on now by the way, United up first. Just saying.

You look at spurs and they’re parking the bus v the bottom team.

Harry fucking Maguire, lads. Fuck me. And he's playing alongside Jones?

afgavinstan wrote:

Harry fucking Maguire, lads. Fuck me. And he's playing alongside Jones? 

I think the alternative to Jones is playing 10 men, which is a likely improvement.

Any no faff link for a stream of the game atm?

Much obliged

Wolves playing some really decent football.

Deserved.

This could be the game where the wheels come off for Liverpool!