Superhero Films: Will They Ever Take Off? - The Bear and Badger

EvilRedEye

If you’re not even enjoying Jessica Jones season 1 then, um, you don’t have good times ahead.

monkey

Daredevil is the only good one. And that's patchy.

JJ and Luke Cage really bad. I gave up on LC.

Iron Fist - so bad it's good. Ymmv.

hylian_elf

Luke Cage was the absolute worst of the worst. Punisher was shit too. Daredevil is decent and best of an atrocious bunch.

monkey

I forgot about Punisher. Another one I gave up on a few episodes in.

mannaboy

It went off the rails in later seasons, but JJ season one was terrific.

g.man

Like many of you I'm pretty much done with Superhero movies for now, but I did watch Guardians of the Galaxy 3 the other night, and I'm glad I did, because that one is an absolute triumph, and quite possibly the best Marvel film outright.
Didn't have high expectations going in. I enjoy the Guardians movies, but I'm not super-pumped for them, but this one was just fantastic fun, and a complete lesson in how to do these kind of films well.
A simple story, a brilliant villain, real heart, and every character got their moment in the sun.
Bit like a victory lap for the MCU before it retires then.
Ultimately, I laughed, I cried, and I had a damn good time. Really good stuff.

b0r1s

Yep it's solid film, surprisingly dark and wrapped things up well... for now obviously.

MattyJ

I watched it the other day too and really enjoyed it. Although at one point I thought there was going to be some plot point about why they're all shouting at each other all the time very loudly, particularly on the organic ring station thing... But not it's just because they were angry, I guess?

RedDave2

All those netflix shows suffered from being 2 epsiodes 2 long. I did enjoy the vibe of Luke Cage and Tennant is great stuff in Jessica Jones. Iron fist was muddled alright. Punisher season 1 is sludge like but Season 2 felt much better and has some nice moments even if overall its not great shakes. Defenders was Avengers without the budget and didnt work (and what a waste of Sigourney Weaver)

I would take all the netflix shows over all the Disney ones though. Not perfect but provided a nice alternative to the MCU. The relatively more down to earth vibe was a nice change to sky beams.

ShabbyMcCrabby

MattyJ wrote:

I watched it the other day too and really enjoyed it. Although at one point I thought there was going to be some plot point about why they're all shouting at each other all the time very loudly, particularly on the organic ring station thing... But not it's just because they were angry, I guess?

I took it as all of them dealing poorly with the stress of what was happening and the reason they were there.

Will be interesting if James Gunn ends up leading DC to a place that takes over from Marvel for making quality blockbuster guff. Seeing as their first releases for the new DCEU are still a while off the whole superhero thing could be properly dead in the public consciousness or people might be ready for something another go around.

With What If, I quite enjoyed how the first season brought it all together for the end. Almost made it worth watching. Almost. It's because of that that I kinda want to see through season 2 but we'll see.

I haven't watched Star Wars visions but that at least got a whole bunch of cool animation studios to do episodes for their second season. Aardman, cartoon saloon and others

monkey

There'll still be money in making Batman and Spider-Man films I expect. The days of the wider universe and taking Captain Nobody and turning it into a blockbuster are probably done.

Rev

g.man wrote:

Like many of you I'm pretty much done with Superhero movies for now, but I did watch Guardians of the Galaxy 3 the other night, and I'm glad I did, because that one is an absolute triumph, and quite possibly the best Marvel film outright. Didn't have high expectations going in. I enjoy the Guardians movies, but I'm not super-pumped for them, but this one was just fantastic fun, and a complete lesson in how to do these kind of films well. A simple story, a brilliant villain, real heart, and every character got their moment in the sun. Bit like a victory lap for the MCU before it retires then. Ultimately, I laughed, I cried, and I had a damn good time. Really good stuff.

Guardians 3 was wonderful. I actually like the trilogy above a lot of the other stuff that has been put out there.
My son watched Love and Thunder and he had a great time with it. It's not a patch on Ragnarok but I think it was Taita trying to get out of making more Marvel movies.

regmcfly

I think Guardians 3 is a bit maudlin and manipulative. Animal in duress let's go.

regmcfly

And that's as someone who I'm fairly sure a scout of the old rooms would reveal a fan of James Gunn. (Unless I'm high as a kite.)

EvilRedEye

Apparently WB have upcoming video games planned that will be canon to the new James Gunn universe so, uh, look forward to that, I guess.

RedDave2

Gunn might make DC movies of a better standard (His Suicide Squad was definitely my favourite of the most recent batch) but I think the earth is a bit scorched on the heroes stuff. I think monkey is right - Batman and Spiderman will always have a place and the likes of Thor and Iron Man have definitely been boosted by Marvels heyday but pulling more minor characters and more fantastical concepts might have had its time.

g.man

The boys are back!

EvilRedEye

The Marvels has hit Disney+.

Wookienopants

Yep, watching it right now.
It's great they have a choice between the theatrical version and the IMAX version.
IMAX version looks stunning in 4k with HDR

b0r1s

Ooo will be on that tomorrow night. Loved Ms Marvel so more fun like that and I’ll be happy.

Wookienopants

It certainly is fun. Some creative action scenes with a big dash of humour and cats.
Plus it's nice to see a superhero movie with such vibrant colours

poprock

That’ll probably tempt me to buy a month of D+.

EvilRedEye

Did anyone actually watch Echo? I feel like it sank without a trace.

Diluted Dante

Yeah, it was fun.

poprock

I watched (and enjoyed) it. Best bits were every time Fisk was on screen, though. Would rather have had a Kingpin series.

hylian_elf

I still haven't seen it!

monkey

EvilRedEye

Looks… promising? It’s quite interesting that they trademarked a bunch of titles then almost immediately announced the final title. Social media seemed to come to a consensus on Deadpool & Wolverine as soon as the trademark news broke so I wonder if that had any influence.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Looks like it could be fun. Little bit sick of Ryan Reynolds being Ryan Reynolds though.
He kind of did a Marvel to his brand by oversaturating the market of him by being himself in every movie so it doesn't feel fresh anymore.

afgavinstan

I don't see it... *looks at camera*.. Taking off.

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