Actually that's not the case. It performed well at Venice, it received numerous glowing reviews. I think in society, it's proving problematic, but the general consensus from reviewers is positive. This seems to be a narrative growing from bad parts of the internet.

regmcfly wrote:

Actually that's not the case. It performed well at Venice, it received numerous glowing reviews. I think in society, it's proving problematic, but the general consensus from reviewers is positive. This seems to be a narrative growing from bad parts of the internet.

The negative aspect went widespread the moment the trailer dropped and has only been fuelled by Todd Phillips being a twat.

It does however highlight the need for more diversity in critic circles, seems to be a disproportionate amount of middle aged white men in the group.

RedDave2 wrote:

So brie larson was right!

Was there ever any doubt?

At the rate that 4 and 5 star reviews are dished out on seemingly every film, I must be honest , I only read reviews for the review. I don't need to agree with it, I just like a well written review particular if its a film I have seen or wont see. Generally avoid reviews if its something I want to see and word of mouth from friends and here is a much bigger factor.

Edit - I really like RLM reviews - Jay is a bit of a film snob where as Rich is a bit closer to my own tastes and Mike is probably about the fairest reviewer (He doesn't seem to need a film to be great to recommend it - just a simple 'did I enjoy it? Yeah')

I posted this in film thread but will cross post here. No spoilers at all.

JOKER

Just wow. Wow wow wow.

Just left the cinema. Will fill this in when i get home. But wow.

Edit: I wont say too much but THIS is the gotham I've always imagined. Gritty, dirty and filthy. Phoenix deserves and oscar for a spellbinding mesmeric performance. Its a shame that this is a standalone movie as you'd love to see batman in this particular gotham.

Almost a masterpiece of a movie and an absolutely iconic take on the joker.

From the indepedent newspaper

Joker has broken the US box office record for October openings and debuted with $93.5 million in domestic earnings.

The origin story starring Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck/Joker also took $140 million overseas to mark a global launch of $234 million, according to The Hollywood Reporter. It also marked the best opening for Warner Bros in two years.

If its a comic character origins story and done well (like the joker) then make as many as they want. Though i dont think there are enough strong villians in the DC universe to make many standalone origin movies.

The Joker shouldn't have an origin story. I genuinely think that they should do a series of films with different, contradictory origins.

You could easily do a Sinestro film, but I'm not sure how much the popularity of Green Lantern in comics would translate to a film.

Diluted Dante wrote:

The Joker shouldn't have an origin story. I genuinely think that they should do a series of films with different, contradictory origins.

You could easily do a Sinestro film, but I'm not sure how much the popularity of Green Lantern in comics would translate to a film.

To be fair that’s why he’s the only character you can do it with, he already has at least five contradictory origin stories, so adding another doesn’t actually change anything, the fact that in this one his real name is A Fleck just adds to the argument that it’s yet another tall tale.

regmcfly wrote:

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Quinn looks pretty good. I do wish Ewan McGregor would stop trying to do an American accent though.

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Ha! Way too accurate

Considering how DC latched onto the stylings of Nolan's films it's a little bit of a worry that they'll do that again but with Joker.
If they do it under a different label like the DC Black that Phillips has suggested then it's not such a bad idea. But I'd rather it be about looking at how to explore characters in a typical drama sensibility than them all having look and feel the same. Just let directors make the movies they want to make

RamSteelwood wrote:

DC Black presents 'The Riddler' - the story of a man who's failure to beat the eggheads on the tv gameshow led him down a dark path to devise the most feindish puzzles and riddles ever.

Even better, a misunderstood genius rejected by his inferior peers seeks revenge on the lumpen idiotic masses:


He one killed a man, just to watch him die - and now he can't stop.

It was just another day at the calendar factory for Julian Gregory Day when suddenly an explosion because of bad capitalism changed his life forever.  Also incels are in it.

monkey wrote:

It was just another day at the calendar factory for Julian Gregory Day when suddenly an explosion because of bad capitalism changed his life forever.  Also incels are in it.

10/10, a masterpiece, a career defining roll for Jake Gyllenhall says some guy who hasn’t seen any film he’s been in since Donnie Darko

Yossarian wrote:

So he became Calenderman because he couldn’t get a date?

*Applause*