M0stly harm13ss wrote:

This Bungie is absolutely not the same one that made our favourite games though, all those guys left or were pushed out.

Unfortunately this seems to be what's happening to a lot of the old guard. So many big name companies are only the same in name these days. 

I uninstalled Destiny 2 yesterday anyway, I'm at peace with it. I went from a 90+ day playtime infatuation to a 3 day playtime struggle of the heart.

It's fine, others are enjoying Destiny for what it is now. But I have doubts about the future of the franchise at this point. A lot of fans that have been burned (repeatedly) on Destiny 2 will not be back. 

Until the next big event then

Basically, play the game or don’t - I don’t care, but shit you read on reddit isn’t fact just because it fits your outlook.

And that's cool. I have issues with the game, and it's a shame that these issues are even worse for older fans. That sucks and no-one wants that. But lets focus on the real issues here - the dlc pricing is still piss poor, the dlc story was...not great, microtransactions are becoming increasingly aggressive, PvP has turned away a lot of the old playerbase, some severe QoL improvements are needed, weapon balancing can be a mess, the super balance isn't great either, every time something new comes out there's another bug. None of that is disputable, imo. It has alienated the loyal old playerbase and Bungie has done a bad job on this front. 

I just want to get rid of the "no content and nothing to do" bullshit that i still see get spewed - they've improved a lot on that front in the last 2 weeks and many of the people moaning the loudest in here haven't even done any of it! Well, improved...unfortunately they've added masses of grind which I, personally, didn't want. This is seemingly in an effort to appeal to those who were unhappy with a lack of meaningful endgame goals.

The masterwork weapons are great fun and increase team supers pretty drastically. I doubt chalice has tried this.
The forge weapons are hit and miss, but there's a great SMG and shotty in there.  I doubt chalice has tried this.
The armour ornaments take real continuous dedication to achieve.  I doubt chalice has tried this.
The new raid lair is good fun.  I doubt chalice has tried this.
The new mercury strikes are some of the best in the game and the public isn't bad.  I doubt chalice has tried this.
Some of the new weapons are great fun to use and have finally dislodged my Nameless Midnight / Last Hope combo as my go-to guns.  I doubt chalice has tried this.
You can now buy armour sets and mods directly from vendors if you wanna avoid rng, plus theres an exotic for a guaranteed new one in case you get duplicate fighting lions!  I doubt chalice has tried this.

This content is all post-December 5th, with vendor updates on the 12th. These were great changes which went down well. We can acknowledge positive steps without hand-waving the bad stuff away. I actually thought those changes would be up your alley - you said you wanted grind, and now there's a shitload of grind. 

Even on PS4 there's been a drop-off, unfortunately. And i understand that. I took a wee break before the expansion since i wasn't feeling like it was worthwhile. It's still not perfect now, but it is better, and some people have started to reappear. I just hope we can talk about what is good without just seizing and jumping on everything that is bad.

I've not tried any of the new stuff because the game is done for me. The basic structure of Destiny 2 for me is a no go. It'll never be the way it was in D1. They haven't the talent to pull it off any more I'm sure of it. The art and sound designers are the only people doing legit good things left at Bungie. Something has gone wrong somewhere.

I'm so glad I didn't buy that DLC. The token system, the weapon system, the supers, the grenades, the movement, the rewards, the cringeworthy dialogue and story for the kids, the greed - the whole game for me has just been so badly tainted and dumbed down, it will never be in a state where I'd be happy to play it again. I don't trust Bungie to fix this, nor am I ever paying them any more of my hard earned so they can try. The gunplay is all that's left and I can get that from the first game.

If the game is done for ya pal then why do you care so much?

Iv been having great fun with the badgers and some of the new stuff.

Still not unlocked a single forge weapon,
Still not finished the new raid lair.
(wich is so much better than og callus raid and up there with vog etc)

Personally i like the new pvp systems and can actually play it better and enjoy it more when i do.

Destiny for me however were never about the loot grind it was always about playing with mates and having a laugh.

digi wrote:

If the game is done for ya pal then why do you care so much?.

Maybe because he put over 1500 hours into the first one.

g.man wrote:

wonderbanana wrote:

digi wrote:

If the game is done for ya pal then why do you care so much?.

Maybe because he put over 1500 hours into the first one.

God he must be terrible. I finished that one in less than twenty hours...

Chalice, the problem people have with your comments is that you haven't played it in 3 months. Everything you're talking about is second hand, and when someone points out that something has changed since then your response is either that it should have been there to start with, that loads of people have stopped playing or something about Eververse. None are relevant.

Perhaps things should have been there at launch, but they weren't. We can't go back in time and change that, we can only deal with things going forward not back. The game as of 21/12/2017 is a different proposition to launch day. It will continue to evolve in the coming months. Whether it will evolve into a game you like or not I've no idea, but right now neither do you.

It does when someone says that they've changed the thing you're moaning about.

Wondered when you'd pop in and do your two bob bit.

I know it's all gravel mate.

Nice.

Anyone up for Trials later today?

Later as in what time?

I can’t then, sorry, streaming from 10am.

Countdown on Pacifica?

Hmm, maybe not.