The Bear and Badger Musical Appreciation Society - The Bear and Badger

Facewon

To be clear, renegade is on blueprint.

Bob

Facewon wrote:

I'd need to think about a top 5. Don't know how many singles I'd put in there.

I’m thinking 5?

Tempy

Never been hugely into Mathers myself. He's clearly good, but I guess I don't really understand rap all that much to see the brilliance of his technical stuff. I'll take Aesop or Daveed any day.

nick_md

Willy D

Facewon

Nah, if you can get down with aesop, you get rap just fine.

Em is a very white phenomenon, IMO.

Reminds me of a prog drummer. He's basically Virgil donati.

Like prog and guys like Virgil get into the maths of the rhythm, and try and out smart themselves, em very much digs in the weeds of flows and rhythm etc trying to be as clever as possible.

He has a big bag of tricks, and on top of his go to moves, knows how to mimic pretty well anyone else's.

As folks point out though, that leaves a big gap where the content goes though.

At best, it's a mixed bag.

regmcfly

I'm no fan but I remember hearing bad guy when in Venezuela and a pupil gave me their iPod as I was at my wit's end with a situation and I really really liked it. Throws hard at the end.

Brooks

Reminds me of a prog drummer. He's basically Virgil donati.

Bingbingbingbing!!!

afgavinstan

I like the Chris d'elia impression of him. BLAMPKINS.

poprock

Ever seen Ice-T’s documentary, The Art of Rap? Check it out if not, it’s brilliant. Most rap docos are all about the history, whereas this is Ice interviewing as many rappers as he can about how they write.

Eminem’s section is brilliant. He talks about the creative process entirely differently to everyone else in the film. For him, it’s solving a puzzle – count the bars, fit syllables to the spaces, make it flow – then fuck with the pattern until it gets interesting – pull these words and swap them round, squeeze a longer word into a shorter space, fill a longer one by repeating short words, etc etc. Fascinating chat, especially if you dig into the extras on the DVD or Blu, where Ice’s full interviews are shown unedited.

Facewon

Yeah, seen it. Good reminder.

"For him, it’s solving a puzzle – count the bars, fit syllables to the spaces, make it flow – then fuck with the pattern until it gets interesting – pull these words and swap them round, squeeze a longer word into a shorter space, fill a longer one by repeating short words, etc etc."

To go back to my Virgil donati analogy, I saw him do a clinic once at a big drummers convention they have in Melbourne each year.

He gave out sheet music and some info on what he was doing, and his opening remarks basically Echo above from em.

I'm going to show you how to squeeze these 15th note triplets into this 9/8 pattern with this hand while I do x and y with my double bass pedal.

Woah.

Moot_Geeza

Production wise The Way I Am hits right. Even the clicky percussion suits it. Would make my top five.

Brooks

Xmasssss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Xgktqp-Zw

Bob

Simple minds - greatest hits

The original 91 one disc edition but Fuck me what an album

If streaming and iTunes really have killed the greatest hits as a thing it’s really Fucking sad

cockbeard

The Daddy wrote:

My Eminem top 5: 1) Drug Ballad 2) Guilty Conscience 3) Forgot about Dre 4) Lose yourself 5) Bitch Please II

Those bass line and plinky top end playing counter on Drug Ballad are great, really does something almost subliminal where I end up think I'm hearing one under the other when only one is playing. I'd probably stick Syllables in there as well

Paul the sparky

How do summer bangers happen in winter?

LarryDavid

Bob wrote:

Simple minds - greatest hits

The original 91 one disc edition but Fuck me what an album

If streaming and iTunes really have killed the greatest hits as a thing it’s really Fucking sad

Glittering Prize? That’s wicked. The compilation of their pre-fame late 70’s stuff is good too.

I had Glittering Prize when I was about twelve and loved it, then ignored it for years as they were a bit uncool and 80’s music wasn’t in. Hard to think back to the mid-to-late 90’s, before the 80’s revival that lasted longer than the decade itself.

Blue Swirl

Prepping an English lesson on the subject of songs/national anthems, and the teacher's book recommends playing some pieces of music and getting the students to write about them. So I pick Bad by Michael Jackson, Sandstorm by Darude, No One Wins by The Berzerker, and Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings.

While making sure that the files played properly, I put the latter on, and immediately teared up. It's funny, isn't it. It doesn't even have a name other than "piece of music for instruments", and there's no singing. It's just a bunch of people drawing a stick across a box of wood with strings on it, and it's amazing. Vibrations in the air and I'm sat gently crying in a coffee shop.

I must have looked like a right weirdo.

Silke

Been joyfully working my way through the remastered six disc set (65 tracks) of Prince's 1999. God I miss that man.

regmcfly

LarryDavid wrote:

Bob wrote:

Simple minds - greatest hits

The original 91 one disc edition but Fuck me what an album

If streaming and iTunes really have killed the greatest hits as a thing it’s really Fucking sad

Glittering Prize? That’s wicked. The compilation of their pre-fame late 70’s stuff is good too.

I had Glittering Prize when I was about twelve and loved it, then ignored it for years as they were a bit uncool and 80’s music wasn’t in. Hard to think back to the mid-to-late 90’s, before the 80’s revival that lasted longer than the decade itself.

Alive and Kicking is in my top 5 of all time. Can't get enough of it. Literally listening to it right now.

poprock

Carly Rae Jepsen’s Tiny Desk Concert is really good. She’s grown into a very respectable soul voice, and shows it off well on the first track.

g.man

I'll watch that...maybe.

poprock

I see what you did there.

poprock

There’s something in Call Me Maybe that drives Cooper absolutely barmy. I think it’s the synth stabs in the chorus. I can’t play it in the house any more.

Minnesänger

poprock wrote:

There’s something in Call Me Maybe that drives Cooper absolutely barmy. I think it’s the synth stabs in the chorus. I can’t play it in the house any more.

Have you tried the DMX mashup to see if the same thing happens?

poprock

Same thing happens with the Isonine mashup (the Nine Inch Nails one). If that comes on when we’re in the car, Cooper wakes up and starts barking like a nutcase.

XOMuggins

Silke wrote:

Been joyfully working my way through the remastered six disc set (65 tracks) of Prince's 1999. God I miss that man.

Still have to get this. I've become quite obsessed with Prince again. Been listening to two playlists I made a lot, which have reminded me that The Chocolate Invasion is a ridiculously good album for what was essentially a throwaway. (Got em sweated off a throwaway.) Also Art Official Age is a top 5 album!

Moot_Geeza

Welcome back muggins.

Has the forum eaten Tempy's album of the year thread from last year? 90% sure it was Tempy's and maybe 50% sure it was called something like That Was the Year That Was (in Music). Unless I dreamt it I thought I bumped it this morning too. Am I going mad?

XOMuggins

Getting super hyped for the new Weeknd album, but here are a few of my favourites from the year:

Bon Iver - i, i
Not as good as the last one, but still rather crunchy and beautiful. Nice call back to the early stuff too.

FKA twigs - Magdalene
It took me a while to get on to her, but I really do love her now. This is rather good. I feel it'll be a grower.

Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell
My favourite since Ultraviolence. Really good.

Thom Yorke - Anima
Loved this. Reminds me that I really need to do a whole catalogue listen of Radiohead.

Billie Eilish - When We All Fall Asleep
Production on You Should See Me in a Crown gets the Muggins Seal of Approval. I am excited to see what she does next and how she matures as an artist.

Tyler, The Creator - Igor
I never would have expected to hear Tyler grow into this kind of artist, putting down the shock tools and picking up sincere emotion. Well worth a listen.

Lizzo - Cuz I Love You
Yep, enjoyed this. Not entirely sold on her all the way around, but I did think this was a good time.

Tempy

When you getting on Clipping

XOMuggins

Today! I promise!

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