X Box Series S and X thread of MS DOING IT BETTER - The Bear and Badger

poprock

I don’t think there’s a winner and a loser any more. We have two companies with very different strategies. They can both win, in different arenas.

b0r1s

I still think there’s valid room for both approaches tbh. It just makes it easier for me to choose PS5 at launch and then look at a Series X about a year down the line, or just get an upgraded PC.

Edit - timing Pop :-)

poprock

WE HAVE A CONSENSUS GUYS.

b0r1s

Close the thread our work here is done!

Kernowgaz

For me I don’t have a gaming PC and the benefits of Gamepass and the fact I only play mp on the Xbox I’ll be going Series X and maybe further down the line I’ll get a Ps5.

But Microsoft need to sort out their exclusives though.

One thing regarding the Ps5 and VR , I’ve read someone say that they’ll be able to use the PS4 headset on the 5, is that confirmed?

Verecocha

MS will drop a bomb at some point and just say “we’re not that bothered about VR, so we’ve just made these existing VR headsets fully compatible and there’s a new VR library in the store, enjoy.”.

Kernowgaz

I think they need to, to be honest.

Verecocha

Kernowgaz wrote:

I think they need to, to be honest.

It’ll happen. They have absolutely no reason to make one themselves and they’re not interested. What negatives would there be? It’s really not the be all though, I’ve had the PSVR for years and even though it’s awesome it’s something we only set up if people are coming around that haven’t played it so they can experience it and we can enjoy watching them. Keep thinking I should use it more but I just can’t be bothered.

poprock

If I were Microsoft, I’d be waiting until wireless VR headsets are a viable, affordable thing. Then offering compatibility straight away.

Say someone like HTC develop a wireless Vive – I’d want that to launch with a big announcement that “Oh, and one more thing … it’s compatible with Xbox!”

Bob

I can see
Making the hardware compatible but whose going to make software? Unless you can just run pc games on series x?

g.man

No. You can run Series X games on PC, but you can't run PC games on Series X.

Minkymu

Verecocha wrote:

MS will drop a bomb at some point and just say “we’re not that bothered about VR, so we’ve just made these existing VR headsets fully compatible and there’s a new VR library in the store, enjoy.”.

I would put money on them doing just this. It makes sense. Valve, Vive and HTC have already done tge dev work and spent the cash.

poprock

Aye. And things like a quick port of Half-Life Alyx would be handy ‘exclusives’ for Xbox versus Playstation.

RedDave2

Are valve more likely to go with ps5 over xbox exclusive? Given that xbox on pc would be a direct competitor? Just speaking off the top of my head

FranticPea

It'd have to be wireless for me. Having a played both, the Quest dumps all over PSVR experience wise. And controller wise. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on PSVR when we nearly did. Would have grabbed a Quest if they were readily available.

regmcfly

I think MS are still wise to keep powder dry on VR. the PSVR is the most comfortable set on the market, no doubt about that, but man it's outdated tech now.

And vr still isn't where it needs to be. We've had Alyx, but we need probably 4-5 more Alyx esque games before everyday people start going for it.

Paul the sparky

How many will it take to get the grandmothers on board?

Bob

Is a grandmother the same as a nan or do I need a different console for that

Verecocha

Minkymu wrote:

Verecocha wrote:

MS will drop a bomb at some point and just say “we’re not that bothered about VR, so we’ve just made these existing VR headsets fully compatible and there’s a new VR library in the store, enjoy.”.

I would put money on them doing just this. It makes sense. Valve, Vive and HTC have already done tge dev work and spent the cash.

That’s the thing, if it’s at very little cost and it gets people on board and/or sells more software why not? If they’re not interested in developing their own headset, which they’re right not to, why not open up the market even more. No brainier for me, can’t see the negative as long as the costs are low.

afgavinstan

Paul. Chill man, we get it.

Paul the sparky

Chilled as owt Gav. It's not me with the bizarre worries and fears.

Paul the sparky

Interesting that I'm the one singled out for the grandmother joke mind.

poprock

We’ve moved on to baseless speculation on VR now. Keep up lads.

afgavinstan

No it's just bizarre you seem more than any bothered by it. It's a comment that became a forum meme for the week, but it seems you're digging further for whatever reason. Don't get defensive man, we're all adults here.

Just enjoy the jokes and move on.

Paul the sparky

Except when I make a joke I get told to chill out?

Do you fancy taking your own advice?

afgavinstan

Okay man, dropping it. Fuck sake.

Bob

Lol dude I’m sorry it was a single out I mentioned it before you must have missed it.

I can tell
You think I’ve agenda and it’s clear you don’t like me but it’s all good in the hood.

I just thought it was funny you where accusing people of being fanboys for not letting the x series x confusion lie last night when it’s clearly become a forum joke that’s actually why it keeps cropping up.

As I said it’s just my opinion and my thoughts it makes no difference to the success of the either console.

I’ve no issue with you or Xbox or anyone else. Just to be clear. Hugs all round or just ignore me. Apologies if I’ve rubbed you up the wrong way.

LivDiv

RedDave2 wrote:

poprock wrote:

“Here are next year’s Xbox games. They’ll look best on the new Xbox Series X.”

And the probable Sony response: "here are our games. They are for PlayStation 5 only and take full advantage of its improved hardware. This allows us to do things not possible last gen. Don't play last gen games with better graphics, play next gen games with next gen gameplay"

I'm an MS fan boy at heart but this is the issue I think will be a problem. It's an easy win for Sony, and all MS need to do is have a few games which are series x exclusive or have bespoke series x versions of games which have features unique to series x.

And the PS5 games look like exactly as next gen as the Xbox ones.

Bob

I think that’s the point though they make look the same but is it holding back
A true next gen experience?

LivDiv

Not for the first couple of years. I wouldnt expect anything beyond graphics dials being turned up and the same levels may load quicker.

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