E3 2019 DROP THE LOAD - The Bear and Badger

Moot_Geeza

Plus Switch Panzer looks like it it's built from scratch. Saga remake wouldn't be an impossible undertaking, I reckon they could Kickstart the fuck out of it too - it's the sort of thing that might not sell massively well if it arrived on the shelves in the standard way, but could potentially rake in loads of internet money in advance.

pantyfire

Today's embryonic gamers aren't going to know or give a frig about P Saga.
Yeh, it'll grab some Kickstarter money but that's about it.

I had it back in the day. It was a great world but a basic as hell RPG from what little I can remember of it. Which isn't a good sign in of itself.

retroking1981

Raiziel wrote:

I have only managed to watch the Xbox and Nintendo E3 thingies, but on a year when I thought MS were going to walk E3 they somehow managed to get owned by Nintendo. That’su how you do it, MS; lots of actual gameplay, lots of exclusives and not a single boast in sight.

Hopefully they take note.

All the over the top conferences feel out of date imo. They don't even seem to demo games on stage now, what's the point?

I've not enjoyed them for years, all the whooping and hollering is just cringy.

afgavinstan

To me, there's a fine line. Bethesda maybe overstepped it, lining the entire front of the theatre with their employees going nuts. I wouldn't ever deny someone working tirelessly on a game the opportunity to see their work in lights and be excited by that, though.

Moot_Geeza

pantyfire wrote:

It was a great world but a basic as hell RPG from what little I can remember of it. Which isn't a good sign in of itself.

The battle system was almost as memorable as the world for me. Was a very neat way of bringing the four-way rails gameplay to a different genre - a sort of pseudo realtime thing where you're shifting between four areas watching for danger zones/waiting for safe zones/attack windows while building and holding onto your berserk move for ultra damage. Closest thing in recent years is Severed, although you're always bang in the middle for that - was a very good system imo, far more interesting than the standard RPG turn-based stuff of the time.

dynamiteReady

Of the 29 exclusives announced at the show (so far), across the 3 major consoles, 19 of those, were Switch games...
Tbf, that excludes the likes of TLoU2 and Death Stranding, which may have well have been shown at E3 (or be playable at the event itself), but weren't trumpeted.

Yossarian

That’s not particularly surprising, at this stage Sony and Microsoft are gearing up for the next gen, Nintendo’s the only company which doesn’t have an eye on building up a catalogue ahead of as-yet-unannounced new hardware.

Moot_Geeza

As we're onto the listing stuff phase I'm gonna go for it. Wasn't a vintage year but as usual there were more than enough games shown to keep me occupied while I wait for next year's show. I think this just about covers it, using Tempy's link as a guide.

WANT

Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Devolver Bootleg
Luigi's Mansion 3
Link's Awakening
Shenmue III
Panzer Dragoon

Want

The Messenger: Picnic Panic
Battletoads
Watch Dogs Legion
Enter the Gungeon: House of the Gundead (want to play anyway)
DOOM Eternal
Mario Maker 2
BotW 2
The Legend of Wright
Circuit Superstars
El Hijo

Might want

Yooka Laylee and the Impossible Lair
Blasphemous
Cadence of Hyrule
My Friend Pedro
Fall Guys
Carrion
Lego Forza
Psychonauts 2
Astral Chain
Control
12 Minutes
Spiritfarer
Empire of Sin
Sky: Children of the Light
GhostWire: Tokyo
Fire Emblem Tree Houses
Cyberpunk 2077

RedDave2

Yossarian wrote:

That’s not particularly surprising, at this stage Sony and Microsoft are gearing up for the next gen, Nintendo’s the only company which doesn’t have an eye on building up a catalogue ahead of as-yet-unannounced new hardware.

I dont know if I quite agree with this anymore. I get what you mean and I'm not saying your wrong as such, I just think the market is going to change. If both Sony and Microsoft include things like Gamepass and backwards compatibility to at least one gen back if not more than games development will be more focused on getting games to market regardless of what gen hardware there will be. Sure, there will be the flagship games that sell the new tech, but I'd imagine we will see more and more consoles acting like pcs - boot up the game, select the format you are playing on (e.g. bone, bone x, bone x 2 etc.) and the game adjusts the graphic effects accordingly.

Yossarian

That’s likely the future, but we aren’t there yet.

JonB

Sony have certainly gone quiet. Perhaps a little too quiet...

Vela

WHERE TEH FUCK ARE 3DS GAMES

poprock

On Switch.

EvilRedEye

There's still time for 3DS announcements on Treehouse.

retroking1981

Moot_Geeza wrote:

As we're onto the listing stuff ...

Definite
Zelda BotW 2
Links Awakening
Contra
No More Heroes III
Luigi's Mansion 3

Maybe
Cyber Punk
Panzer Dragoon

Think that's about it.

RedDave2

Yossarian wrote:

That’s likely the future, but we aren’t there yet.

I dont know. If the next x-box is coming in 2 versions from the start and both Sony and Microsoft have already tested the water this gen, the idea of this being really just an upgrade is pretty strong. Backwards compatibility on bone and PS4 software, bone hardware having BC - all points to the idea of new consoles slowly disappearing. I think we are entering the phone model of home consoles - its the best way to build a consistent user base. Good for customers too - cant upgrade to PS5 yet? dont worry, you can still play the games (maybe not quite as they were meant to be played) and they will carry over when you do.

I'd be really curious what Nintendo follows up switch with. Technically they tried the same with the Wii to the Wii-U but switch is has a much more unique USP than either x-box or Playstation

Yossarian

It does seem like forward compatibility is coming to Bone at least, from what I can parse from interviews, but what I meant by that was more that we aren’t at the point where this has become enough of an established thing for the console manufacturers not to want to hold back games and announcements to support a new console launch.

LivDiv

Definite
Outerworlds
Cyberpunk
BotW2
Link's Awakening
FF7 Remake
Halo Infinite
Elden Ring

Maybe
Luigi's Mansion 3
Pokemon Sword/Shield
FF8 Remaster
Outriders
Watchdogs Legion
Gods & Monsters
Battletoads
Psychonauts
Ghostwire Tokyo
Blair Witch
Bleeding Edge
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order (a fall from grace, should be in my definite list)

A lot of the Maybe list will be a case of waiting for them to come on Game Pass or cheap.

bad_hair_day

Dinostar77

Were there any ingame footage videos of Witcher 3 on Switch?

Vela

RedDave2 wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

That’s likely the future, but we aren’t there yet.

I dont know. If the next x-box is coming in 2 versions from the start and both Sony and Microsoft have already tested the water this gen, the idea of this being really just an upgrade is pretty strong. Backwards compatibility on bone and PS4 software, bone hardware having BC - all points to the idea of new consoles slowly disappearing. I think we are entering the phone model of home consoles - its the best way to build a consistent user base. Good for customers too - cant upgrade to PS5 yet? dont worry, you can still play the games (maybe not quite as they were meant to be played) and they will carry over when you do. I'd be really curious what Nintendo follows up switch with. Technically they tried the same with the Wii to the Wii-U but switch is has a much more unique USP than either x-box or Playstation

I assume that this is indeed how things will pan out for now. x86 architecture, and a persistently growing userbase tied to the platform with existing purchases and/or subs. Just like the iOS/Android model, and Steam/PC.

I expect this to be the standard console model going forward unless one of two things occurs:

1. Streaming becomes viable for the majority of the market (unlikely unless its paired with a hybrid download option), or;
2. A major disruption in architecture occurs that requires an entire break with x86 base

My uneducated guess is that these things arent imminent so the only remainign question is whether any company will implement a rising floor a la iOS where older software designed with legacy OS versions in mind becomes obsolete if the developers can't update them.

LivDiv

Dinostar77 wrote:

Were there any ingame footage videos of Witcher 3 on Switch?

Avery brief shot of him riding a horse. I think that was it, certainly all I caught.

Roujin

I missed it but I just searched on Google for a heavily compressed .gif and it was probably no different.

Hiyo!

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ShabbyMcCrabby

LivDiv wrote:

Dinostar77 wrote:

Were there any ingame footage videos of Witcher 3 on Switch?

Avery brief shot of him riding a horse. I think that was it, certainly all I caught.

The footage in the trailer looked in engine. Quite a reduction from the main version but just cut scene stuff. If it's not on the floor to play then I imagine they're still ironing out frame rate and don't want to show it being played yet. Can't imagine how the cities will fair.

cosmicjellybean

FOR SURE
Link's Awakening + spec ed + amiibo
Final Fantasy 7
No More Heroes 3
Pokemon S/S
(where's bayonetta 3 you cowards)
Doom
Luigi's Mansion 3
Animal Crossing
Fire emblem
edit: dragon quest 11

MAYBES
Wolfenstein twins
Astral Chain
Trials of Mana
Gods and Monsters

Dang that's a lot to want...

cosmicjellybean

Vela wrote:

WHERE TEH FUCK ARE 3DS GAMES

FREE JAKE HUNTER

regmcfly

cheque please
Links awakening
Luigi 3
Watch dogs oi oi
Botw 2
Contra
Outer Wilds
Doom
Telling lies
Animal crossing

a regular bugle boy
Cyberpunk
Fire emblem
Smash pass
Dragon quest xi
Pokemon
Forza Lego

Dubs

I'll get round to Shenmue 3 eventually, then DOOM ETERNAL and whatever doesn't suck out of Mikami's thing, Halo and FromSoft. Should be fun watching the Cyberpunk hype-train crash and burn but it's a shame that death and rape threats seem to go with the territory. Really spoils the schadenfreude.

Must resist Nintendo laser-targeting my nostalgia with that Link's Awakening special edition, it is a bad thing. New Zelda is guaranteed, hoping for a mostly Goron-based experience.

The Monster Hunter expansion in a couple of months, then Death Stranding which I never expected in 2019. Really looking forward to it. I would've been happy with another year or two of Kojima's trailers tbh.

Skerret

Is there a new Shining Force

Dinostar77

I've not had a chance to watch the nintendo direct, was Hades mentioned for Switch at all?

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