g.man wrote:

How appropriate. You fight like a Kow.

hark at Tempy, hanging around fancy pubs with plates for the money.

Pretty sure if the change was returned on a little plate in our local pubs it would more likely be returned with force than cash on it.
but why make a distinction with fast food/drink places? seems to me that staff at mcdonalds or costa or whatever are prob as lowly paid and put upon by customers, why not tip them? "get yourself a cheeseburger too mate"

Tempy's attitude is making me rethink tipping in general.

Not sure I'll bother anymore.

I hope you don't end up eating any yellow snow this winter.

Can't say I've ever known anyone to tip bar staff in my life. Waiters sure, they do actual hard work. Bar staff just bum about pouring pints and drinking free coke.

You will take your tips when I decide and you will be grateful, Tempy.

Andy wrote:

Tempy, I didn’t really want to do this, but need I remind you that you’ve been on the receiving end of the generosity of various members of this forum, so attacking us for how we choose to distribute disposable income is not a good look?

Bud, you know I love you, but please don’t do that. Generosity here should never have strings attached, ever. For any reason in any discussion. I don’t want anyone in trouble here or struggling in any way not coming forward because they’re embarrassed it’d get raised later. I mean that in the nicest way, truly.

Recently I turned down a very generous offer from someone here for help for that reason. But, truth be told, at the time I really needed it. Things are kinda better now, but I had no way of knowing that then...I just hated the idea of owing anyone and having it ever held against me.

I always tip waiting staff but don't always to bar staff, and I've worked both. Bar staff work hard but waiting can be exhausting and the arguments tend to be much worse, and the job is generally a lot, lot more stressful. I don't tip much in bars only because I tend to forget, never having got tips when I did it, although when I remember I generally keep tipping every round.

I'm not saying working behind a bar isn't awfulI but I never forget the sheer horror of waiting and always leave a good one, even if the service is awful. Service is generally bad because the managers are under pressure to cut staff hours, not because the waiter is lazy. You just couldn't be a lazy waiter anymore than you could be a lazy astronaut.

I shall endeavour to remember to tip bar staff more often.

And that’s fine. I understand the tipping issue - I’m with tempy on the issues but I don’t begrudge people for seeing it differently. We can debate it, that’s cool, and if you see it my way then that’s great, but if you don’t I’ll respect that and not try to make you feel like a cunt.

But, I’d argue generosity and help between forumites should always be off the table.

Where if not here can make I seething posts about the middle aged people who make every friday and saturday of my life hell? I’m sorry it made you feel bad Andy but any vitriol was over the top for the sake of having fun. Do what you want with yer cash, it’s not actually going to make me put people on a list, i’m not that kind of person.

I am a bad person wrt to tipping I suspect.  Hairdressers: yes.  Taxis: no.  Food places where I can do it on the card: yes.  Food places which don't do it on the card: iff I have change.  Tip jars by cafe checkouts: fairly rarely .  Pubs and bars: lol no this is London, that's not how we roll.

Tbf I haven't got a taxi for like a decade

I have only ubered once, when somebody else insisted.

Yoss confirmed Tory, meanwhile

I just took a taxi. I didn't tip him. I don't really understand why I should.

To be honest, I don’t know why we do either. It’s just expected. I understand tipping waiting staff etc – very low wages etc.