Star Trek - The Bear and Badger

b0r1s

It’s only taken them three seasons but yep they finally made a decent episode. Frakes on top directing from there.

The scene with Picard and Beverly was surprisingly good and definitely the best acting Stewart has done since starting all this. I was also on his side during the argument.

Even the Raffi plot was well done and her partner became even more bad ass than last episode.

My only niggle is the fact that the…

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EvilRedEye

I feel like what's helping this a lot vs seasons 1 and 2 is the returning characters simply being much better conceived than the very wonky original characters from Picard (although, to be fair, the new captain and Geordi's daughter seem to be alright). The returning cast members are also putting in really good performances - Gates McFadden and Michael Dorn were really good in this episode.

b0r1s

Yep they nailed the always double-sided nature of Worf I thought. His human parents would have been proud.

Captain bastard continues to be solid.

Blue Swirl

Worf is back? Dang, I need to finish season 2.

monkey

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mannaboy

Yeah Raffi is still awful.

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HawBawJaws

Hhhhhhhmmmmm.

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monkey

My main issue with Worf is his skull ridges are significantly smaller.

mannaboy

Judging by the rest of the TNG crew, cosmetic surgery is still a thing in the far future .

mannaboy

That deepfake scene was quite the thing, cgi almost wobbling around on Riker.

EvilRedEye

The showrunner was asked about the Jurati collective on Twitter and basically said they just weren't interested in taking that plotline forward. She left with the alternative universe version of La Sirena from the Confederacy, the prime timeline version is fine.

Worf's line about pacifism is from the trailer and hasn't occured in the show yet.

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superflyninja

Well blow me down, wasnt that a great episode (Picard s3e3)?
Riker is awesome as always. The scene with Picard acting was rather good and even though the de-aging thing was shonky, I felt actual emotions during the scene. Its not perfect but darn it felt like proper Trek.

Im not a fan of Jack though (the actor). He does that face tilt down whilst staring thing a bit too much.
Rafi.....is getting better but more lines should be given to her vastly superior partner.

ChopperByrne

For me, it's gone full bollocks again, so just have to embrace the nonsense now.

EvilRedEye

Kind of an interesting tidbit from an interview with Jonathan Frakes - he was asked about the prospect of any further Star Trek shows set in the 32nd Century after Discovery finishes and said "Don't hold your breath."

ChopperByrne

Jaysus Christ!

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mannaboy

Yeah they try to explain it away for silly reasons.

Still not a bad episode.

mannaboy

EvilRedEye

It feels weird as fuck to be enjoying a season of Picard.

b0r1s

ChopperByrne wrote:

Jaysus Christ!

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Divert power from all non-essentials systems!

Two minutes later, Picard runs a holodeck program.

That was literally my thought.

Yeah but batteries.

Have to say my favourite bit was Captain Shithead’s monologue. Top stuff.

b0r1s

Also how is Jerry Ryan not aging. She looks so bloody good. I had to Google her age to be sure.

EvilRedEye

I feel like it was intended as a bit of a knowing homage to all the times the holodeck was ludicrously kept going on Voyager while disaster befell the ship. It was self-aware enough for it to be OK for me.

g.man

Oh God. I’m going to have to watch this, amn’t I.

monkey

That was ... fine. Which is still an enormous step up. Getting a bit bored of Picard doddering around. He's the worst thing about it. No actually

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is the worst thing about it.

b0r1s

g.man wrote:

Oh God. I’m going to have to watch this, amn’t I.

Not really. It’s not that good. We’ve just got Stockholm Syndrome.

EvilRedEye

I want this to stick the landing and then never see the TNG crew again. I don't think there's ever going to be another opportunity to competently round their story out.

mannaboy

I feel manipulated watching Picard S3, the callbacks to TNG and its spinoffs is hitting me in the face like a big old salmon and I’m loving it.

mannaboy

Also I missed a bunch of stuff with this latest episode.

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ChopperByrne

Sidney LaForge somehow found time to get a a completely new hairstyle during an emergency. I don't care though, because that previous hairstyle was hiding just how hot she is.

EvilRedEye

One thing I would say for anyone on the fence about watching it is the online discourse is getting very spoilery after each episode very fast and as we head out of the early episodes covered by the trailers, quite a big bit of the intended appeal is twists and, like, "Hey, it's a surprise returning thing!" Also, I think they've given the finale to journalists at this point and there's no indication that it shits the bed. So while I don't want to overstate how much you'd potentially enjoy it, I do think at this point the risk/reward calculation tips into watching it now rather than holding on. (Also, if you want to watch it legally I think we've now hit the point where one month of subscription will cover you to the finale which hits 21 April.)

RedDave2

So I hated picard 1 and did not watch picard 2 ... Will I be ok to watch this?

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