LivDiv wrote:

@Cocko
I have that problem with Visualiser/Visualizer all the time.

Color is creeping in as well for practical reasons. I imagine for coders its an inevitability that Americanisms become norm.

Haha, true enough, remember spending ages trying to debug my first proper piece of VB years ago, only to find it was because I used Initialise instead of Initialize

Aren’t those set at a system level?

On a Mac you get the option for British English when setting up your computer and everything (aside from Word back in the day, not sure if that’s changed), respects that setting.

Windows doesn't force everything, but there is a preferred languages setting in there and any apps or websites that have those language options will use those. 

Couldn't say off the top of my head how good it is at enforcing it though, because I feel like I've seen chrome spell checking stuff as though it was US sometimes.

Tricky to have phonetic spellings when English regional accents vary so wildly.

Yossarian wrote:

Tricky to have phonetic spellings when English regional accents vary so wildly.

I'm not sure: When you are learning to spell and read using phonemes, as all state primary kids currently do here, the dialects are less pronounced. E sounds like "eh" when you're being taught, for everyone, as far as I can tell.

I reckon I pronounce the 'u' in colour, it's very subtle but it's there. Color looks like it should sound 'collar'.

I always will never be happy saying 'airplane', sounds like something a toddler would say whilst pointing at one. Aeroplane all the way for me.

"Not lazy" to modernise an ancient language in a way that makes sense, and helps our children with literacy, and probably helps children with dyslexia - reducing attainment gaps and educational / life outcomes?

Keep your unwanted welcomes sir!

Minnesänger wrote:

Funkstain wrote:

It doesn't help that they're half Slovak, which is a very phonetic written language. "Why isn't it as easy as Slovak daddy" "fuck knows. conservatives are cunts"

Because we’re not lazy and if something is worth conveying it should take effort. Simple languages are for simple minds. There’s your answer. You’re welcome.

I mean - English is a wonderfully expressive language due to the incredible amount of word stealing it's done, its adaptability, the sheer weight of words we have. You can put as much effort as you like into expressing yourself with a vast vocabulary, incredible idioms, elegant expressions, perfect puns, asinine analogies. But putting that effort into actual spelling just seems backwards to me

I can't shake the feeling that the US English way of spelling some words seems kind of childish, like they got it wrong once and no one corrected them.

I think there's something important about the extra letter or two in our words, I think there is something subtle about the difference in pronunciation of those syllables, and having it spelled as such is a better representation of our speech. Also our history and etymology is encoded in our words, and I think we should try and preserve some of that -


Also I don't think there's anything meaningful to be gained from trying to reduce the complexity of our language, it's really not that hard to learn correct spellings and type out an extra letter or two..

I mean you do know that the French long stopped spelling colour like that, right? because they moved on? but that doesn't mean that etymologists can still trace the history and spunk on middle englishisms does it

what is meaningful about stupid spellings of words? what possible benefit do we get out of Knight, Night, "I" mean "IGH" spelling I mean what is even that? the meaning comes from the sheer number of words and the various ways you can put them together, inspired by a rich and varied and vulture-like culture

also just for avoidance of doubt I don't really actually care about this and am just wasting time instead of paying attention to this endless zoom call and no offence meant etc

It's really just a point of aesthetics for me I think, I like the way our words look somehow. I'm not mega invested either way, but I will be spelling it 'honour' until the end of my time.

English spelling is just a mash up of all the times us brits got our shit pushed in by everyone that used to come over here and wreck us up big stylee in the middle ages. It's like a big list of historical defeats inflicted by horrible johnny foreigner ever time you write something down. 

We got all the extra U's next to O's in them words cos the french kicked the fuck out of us, we got all those hard SK sounds like skull, sky, etc. from the vikings after they came over and just occupied the north for free. 

Thank god that since I do the majority of communication these days by spamming the grimacing face emoji, twitch emotes or various pastas, I have truly transcended the language barrier of the world. I don't need to know how to tell people I am feeling sad if I get stuck somewhere remote, I will just say biblethump until help appears and I get a hug.

Didn’t intend for actual discussion to happen, was just EZ Bantz. My apologies.

Why do you hate Britain Funk?