Weird Stuff (tinfoil hat wearing goons only, please)
  • I suspect people of my exact age (33) are much more likely to remember the same things incorrectly as me. A mixture of how old we were when it happened, culture around the event at the time and general culture of what we pay attention too.
  • Kow wrote:
    I couldn't answer more than one of those. And I know my answer would be wrong, but it would be wrong because the line has been misquoted so often, not because my memory is wrong.
    Actually, I think a lot of Mandela Effect examples are because of initial misquotes, comedy skits, and so forth

    This theory was proven in at least one case. Something to do with a movie spoof of Scream (i forget the name.) People remember the line "i see white people" but it's not in the film. However, it IS in the trailer. Some people still refuse to believe it wasn't in the film, cos, you know, they're dickheads.
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    Also, every chorus of the Queen song ends with phrase you're thinking of, except the very last one. It's absolutely normal that you fill it in in your mind, because otherwise it just hangs there.
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    It's like "Play it again, Sam", which is not said at any moment in Casablanca, but I don't think it's down to a collective misremembering. Particularly as I also know that quote, and haven't even seen the film.
  • The line 'I am your father, Luke' is never said in Star Trek.
  • No one has ever fixed the pizza delivery in a porn film.
  • Kow, you should go fight https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/

    (Don't look, it will make you angry.)
  • Kow wrote:
    Also, every chorus of the Queen song ends with phrase you're thinking of, except the very last one. It's absolutely normal that you fill it in in your mind, because otherwise it just hangs there.
    Yup. I had the original album on vinyl when it came out in the 70's. Song always ended sans "of the world." 
    The words "of the world" are really just used as a bridge at the end of all the earlier choruses. The song never ended with them...except when they performed it live...or except when it was faded out before the final chorus on the radio...or except when...
    Anyway, you get the idea. Our memories just play tricks on us.

    Yesterday I posted this commercial in the Big Dogs thread


    Both DavyK and I remember it from our childhoods...but we both remember it being in colour.
    It's just a figment of a memory from fifty years ago. In fact, if you think about it, I'd be very surprised if either Davy's family or mine even knew anyone who owned a colour tv back in the sixties. Early seventies before we got our first one.
    Memory just plays tricks on you.
    Come with g if you want to live...
  • Djornson wrote:
    Kow, you should go fight https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/

    (Don't look, it will make you angry.)

    Christ, some of those people!
    Proof they are on an alternate timeline because some Korean colour artist got the red and white stripes wrong in The Simpsons.

    UNCLE SAM HAS A DIFFERENT HAT!

    Edit: some are quite tragic.

    "I was at the store and thought it was like The Truman Show. Plus noone would maintain eye contact"

    "Has anyone noticed people have started fake laughing at them".

    Ummm
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    g.man wrote:
    Kow wrote:
    Also, every chorus of the Queen song ends with phrase you're thinking of, except the very last one. It's absolutely normal that you fill it in in your mind, because otherwise it just hangs there.
    Yup. I had the original album on vinyl when it came out in the 70's. Song always ended sans "of the world." 
    The words "of the world" are really just used as a bridge at the end of all the earlier choruses. The song never ended with them...except when they performed it live...or except when it was faded out before the final chorus on the radio...or except when...
    Anyway, you get the idea. Our memories just play tricks on us.

    Yesterday I posted this commercial in the Big Dogs thread


    Both DavyK and I remember it from our childhoods...but we both remember it being in colour.
    It's just a figment of a memory from fifty years ago. In fact, if you think about it, I'd be very surprised if either Davy's family or mine even knew anyone who owned a colour tv back in the sixties. Early seventies before we got our first one.
    Memory just plays tricks on you.

    Maybe yours and Davy’s entire childhoods were, in fact, in black and white and you’re just filling in the colours yourselves.
  • Djornson wrote:
    I guess the answer to my initial question 'is this an appropriate place to discuss the Mandela Effect' was no

    Incorrect. This is an appropriate place to discuss it. You just don’t like that the discussion is drawing the obvious conclusion that ‘The Mandela Effect’ is a load of guff.
  • LivDiv wrote:
    Djornson wrote:
    Kow, you should go fight https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/ (Don't look, it will make you angry.)
    Christ, some of those people! Proof they are on an alternate timeline because some Korean colour artist got the red and white stripes wrong in The Simpsons. UNCLE SAM HAS A DIFFERENT HAT! Edit: some are quite tragic. "I was at the store and thought it was like The Truman Show. Plus noone would maintain eye contact" "Has anyone noticed people have started fake laughing at them". Ummm

    Some of them need help. I've tried to have reasonable conversations in there. It wasn't received well. There's the 'milder' https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/ but even then a lot of posters are very closed to anything which doesn't fit their personal theory.
  • Oh yeah, definitely not worth the effort of rational talk there.
  • Djornson wrote:
    There's the 'milder' https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/ but even then a lot of posters are very closed to anything which doesn't fit their personal theory.
    Aye, there's a lot of that about...
    Come with g if you want to live...
  • Andy wrote:
    Djornson wrote:
    I guess the answer to my initial question 'is this an appropriate place to discuss the Mandela Effect' was no
    Incorrect. This is an appropriate place to discuss it. You just don’t like that the discussion is drawing the obvious conclusion that ‘The Mandela Effect’ is a load of guff.

    I disagree. I seriously don't mind. I do feel a bit 'attacked' but hey, maybe i could have presented what i'm actually interested in better to start with.
  • Mate. Look at the examples. So, some people forget if a title is ‘a’ or ‘the’. Or ‘in’ instead of ‘and’, which sound very similar. Or are unsure, in a world where loads of two-word trademarks have a hyphen, whether or not a particular brand has one.

    It’s inconsequential guff.

    As for misremembered film quotes, it’s not abunch of people remembering the same thingvthe wrong way. It’s all lines that have been spoofed elsewhere, and the wrong version gets into the public consciousness.

    There is nothing that links the above to things, and neither of them deserves a name individually, let alone together.
  • Soooo, i'm not allowed to find it interesting?

    Cool.

    You don't find it interesting? That's 100% cool. I will stop posting about it.
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    Djornson wrote:
    I guess the answer to my initial question 'is this an appropriate place to discuss the Mandela Effect' was no
    Incorrect. This is an appropriate place to discuss it. You just don’t like that the discussion is drawing the obvious conclusion that ‘The Mandela Effect’ is a load of guff.
    I disagree. I seriously don't mind. I do feel a bit 'attacked' but hey, maybe i could have presented what i'm actually interested in better to start with.

    It's an interesting subject, but not necessarily because of the "effect" itself. And nobody is attacking you - well, I'm not anyway. This is the correct thread for this kind of thing and there will be disagreement. Please keep posting about it.
  • Djornson wrote:
    Soooo, i'm not allowed to find it interesting? Cool. You don't find it interesting? That's 100% cool. I will stop posting about it.
    Nah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with finding it interesting Djorn. Be a dull old world if we were all interested in the same things.
    Come with g if you want to live...
  • PLEASE WATCH THIS  - Less than 10 minutes 
    Additional pilot/aerospace engineer testimony re the Gimble UFO's O_O

    Watched that. The dramatic music made me laugh but overall, yeah, interesting.
    g.man wrote:

    Read this. Nice read. And nice website in general. Thanks.

    I guess i've missed an argument here but i'm gonna ramble some bs about my thoughts anyway. That video, could be Aliens, sure, could be secret military experiments, it's possible. But it could equally be many other things.

    Apparently the US Navy started using the term Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) instead of UFO which makes a lot of sense to me, because it's broader, covers more possibilities and has less negative connotations with constantly discredited stories. 'Flying' and 'Object' are quite limiting. 'Flying' implies a method of being in the sky based on our current understanding of what's possible. 'Object' implies something physical when it could be an optical illusion or an effect created by machinery or something much more 'otherworldly' that we don't understand.

    Anyway, I guess i have an open mind/sit on the fence depending on which way you look at it. I totally think it's possible Aliens are watching us or people from the future are. At the same time i don't know if it's worth thinking about too much. There is no way we can prove it or disprove it. Bertrand Russel's flying teapot always sticks in my mind when i think about this stuff - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

    I dunno, it's late, i should sleep.
  • UAP also covers natural phenomena. One of the more interesting that got (re-)discovered, finally captured on video and fully explained back when I was reading Fortean Time in the 90s was lightning "sprites":  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(lightning)
    Pilots would report these thing but no-one knew what they were. Wasn't time travellers though, just plasma ejecting into the upper atmosphere above a lightning storm.

    Also, memory is inherently fallible and flexible, any cognitive scientist will tell you that. Which is why the "UFO investigators" that would put people who thought they may have been abducted under hypnosis and asking them all kinds of leading questions to uncover their "mask memories" (like, "have you ever dreamt of an owl?" type shit) and "past life regression" etc. is utterly morally bankrupt.

    Also why people put under intense police police interrogation (especially minors) can end up "confessing" and convinced that they actually did it when they didn't. e.g. The case that "When They See Us" is based on:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case
    Also the "Satanic Panic" back in the 80s:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse#Children's_allegations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse#False_memories

    Plenty of weird shit out there, just not many time travellers. They're too good at hiding.
  • Kow wrote:
    Who is he anyway?
    He's Terrence Howard a fairly famous actor.
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    Don't recognise his face.
  • He's the pre-Cheadle
  • Man needs a pack of these.
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  • The maths checks out. Sky people confirmed as real.
  • Having a completely normal one in here eh
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    Remember the basic laws of common sense.
  • If you tilt your head a little then all the sums at the bottom make sense. The words not so much.

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