Are you telling me that I'm playing it wrong?

Been having a look over on the PESfan forums, a lot of people mentioning input lag, possibly to do with the resolution of your tv. I'm sure mine is set to 720p, but it's something else to check.

Cabaye chests it in the air on the edge of the box using the RT perfect first touch thing, it's dropping on his right peg just asking to be volleyed. He traps it then tries a shot which is closed down. Halp me please.

Tapping it once was the first thing I tried, no joy. Now I'm batting away at the button, the power bar is there but they're constantly trying to bring the ball down instead of hit it. Bizarre. I could understand if they blootered it over the bar as I've hit it so many times I've filled the bar, but they just don't want to hit it first time.

I just use the auto settings, I like to leave it up to the AI's skill set to determine how accurate they are. You are still able to influence whether they are shooting straight or towards the corner, but ultimately it's their stats that decide success. It's how I've always played PES, I influence the type/power/direction of cross, through ball, shot, pass, etc. and the stats of each player dictate how well these translate. There may be some big Billy bollocks who can devote their lives into mastering manual passing, shooting and what not, but I haven't the time or inclination, and as you say, Sparky, it doesn't look like PES2014 rewards you for doing so.

I don't have any bother with normal passing, trapping or defending, except when the AI decides to pull my defenders out of position for no logical reason so they can get through late in a game.

Regarding the training, the trap, shift it then shoot thing is impossible to do with any consistency, but I'll never use it in a match anyway. The through ball one will probably be a piece if piss now I've switched to the non-broken system.

Anyway I've played the game for years and years, including recent versions. I know what I'm doing, it's just that they've fucked things right up. Simple things, like when a cross is coming in and I press shoot I want my player to attempt to put the fucking ball in the back of the net with any part of his anatomy, not take two touches and try to place it. He doesn't have to score every time, just an attempt would be nice, I'd appreciate the effort.

Good watch that, Ram, nice one.

I came in at Pro 1 on the PS2 and did 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, all PS2. PES 2008 was my last before transferring to FIFA09 and 10, took an enforced footie game break before returning with PES2014. Isn't without its flaws but I'm looking forward to next gen Pro Evo and hoping it can be as good as the series rich history deserves.

As webbins says, its not perfect but its the first football game on the ps3 I think I've enjoyed.

Demo is finally starting to click (demo 2 on ps3). Not sure how the final version differs since I assume it has patches, but my W/D/L is dead even after a few dozen games. A couple of 2-0 losses and a 3-0 win, a bullshit 1-0 loss in the 90th and a lovely equalising 1-1 comeback in the last 10 minutes.

You can get quickly into a match without bothering with the data uploads etc., at least as quick as FIFA. Make no mistake, FIFA is a fair bit slicker and overall feels more realistic. It remains my fave. But, having a good go on PES for free is a great thing; I'm particularly liking the snapshot, more arcadey goal-scoring.

Yeah, take off manual shooting and go back to auto. Or you can leave it on manual and watch in horror as instead of heading the ball at goal, your player chests it down, takes another touch to get it of of his feet and is closed down before he can get a shot off. Bad aids.

The keepers on penalties are surely broken. Often it is not merely a case of guessing the right way as even when you do, the stopper offers the limpest of wrists and the ball goes in anyway. I think I passed the training module by just saving ones straight down the middle.

i persevered enough to play a couple of friendlies but i can't see me playing this more, just don't like it.  same goes for the recent fifas too.  i think they've went too far down the route of trying to simulate 'everything' and forgotten the bit about a fun video game.  the classic PES's were great games that felt like football....the modern games are such an accurate simulation they feel exactly like me playing football for real now...dodgy touch, slow to react, can't do what i want to do...

This game is infuriatingly dumb. AI on your own team routinely runs sabotage, running in front of your passes to cause possession loss. Any ball spills are invariably won in favour of the opposition. And full body checks are fair game for one side but never mine.

Add to that AI actively running away from the ball; or, worse, when you select a player the computer moves you away from the ball for an interception.
AI team mates dont make a run when they should, but do when they can be guaranteed offside.

Also, dont bother playing daytime matches. Wings are impossible to see in shadows.

Game also actively stops you from shooting or passing until it makes you run through another 5 animation cycles.

edit: game deleted. What a waste of time. Controller input seems entirely optional in this piece of shit, since the game ignores 90% of it.

Officially shit. My mate was round the other night, we managed about 5 games of this and when PES is shit even for local multiplayer then it's definitely fucked.

Webbo and I are currently in update hell. I think I have to enter my online code thing too. Modern gaming is such a chore.