I have bought this for £19.99

Speedhaak wrote:

This is mighty good stuff from the developers. They really have tried to turn this game around. I think they made the right decision to just go all out shooter looter and focus on the character builds and incremental updates to your loadout much like Diablo. Survival is also a fantastic addition to the game and almost seems like where the game should naturally sit.

Hmm. Can't agree really. I found it dull. No effort has been made to make it easy for people coming back to the game, and survival just felt very boring. Maybe I was tired but I just seemed to be running from building to building opening rucksacks and suitcases. Didn't feel very 'survivaly'

Might give it another go...

You gotta give it another go Chalice, it's absolutely brilliant. Completely absorbed by it.

Find me a cheap season pass because £30 is taking the piss

Yep!The PVE, will go PVP when after a few successes in PVE!

Hodge360 wrote:

This world tier stuff seems to have made life easier for the loan wolf. Managed an Underground last night where I had a lot more losses than completions pre-patch.
Where is the Survival stuff though? Made sure it's downloaded and saw references to it in the dailys but can figure out how to try it. Thought maybe you had to go underground but no sign there either.
Also,while tying up loose ends, I'm having a bit of trouble with a virus investigation in "The Crypt". First machine is just in the door of the shopping centre but haven't a clue where the other two are! Anyone else have trouble?

Survival isn't underground dude it's in the lower level of the hub, the level just before you enter the underground. There'll be vendors around and a room to your right with a door you access to access the survival menu. Go do it now and see how ACES it is.

Verecocha wrote:

Hodge360 wrote:

This world tier stuff seems to have made life easier for the loan wolf. Managed an Underground last night where I had a lot more losses than completions pre-patch. Where is the Survival stuff though? Made sure it's downloaded and saw references to it in the dailys but can figure out how to try it. Thought maybe you had to go underground but no sign there either. Also,while tying up loose ends, I'm having a bit of trouble with a virus investigation in "The Crypt". First machine is just in the door of the shopping centre but haven't a clue where the other two are! Anyone else have trouble?

Survival isn't underground dude it's in the lower level of the hub, the level just before you enter the underground. There'll be vendors around and a room to your right with a door you access to access the survival menu. Go do it now and see how ACES it is.

It's also not auto unlocked, you walk up to the door for the first time and It says you need to buy/download it. BUT go through the motions and if you have the season pass (and auto updates on your bone on) then it's just a matter of activating the license and then the content is available.

Yeh, dont select the second option when looking for a game - it tries to put you in a group of 4 or 5 then finds a game, it takes ages, just select the first option and it just finds a quick game with a slot open.

Way to make me not wanna try Ver.

Hodge360 wrote:

Way to make me not wanna try Ver.

Still bags you loads of food stuff and it's incredible! But yeah, the Hunters are nails, so don't rush, you've got ages so spend ages getting the best stuff you can.

I suspect you'll get raped quite quickly, but you never know till you try...
It won't take you too long to level that high tbh.

I'd contrast their statements.Love the DZ and I shop through the levels and got so, so much gear. There's a ton of weapon caches dotted around so you needn't even take on the enemies until you call in a chopper, and even then just get some distance and work through the enemies. The DZ and Survival are the most impressive elements of MP gaming to have graced my consoles since Raiding. Brilliant emergent gameplay at a number of opportunities.

The AI is indeed impressive. As you say, very aggressive and will move to flank and chase you down.

So hit lev 30.

Maxed Sec and tech wings.

One story mission left, and it's med, so that'll max all three wings.

Have done some search and destroy etc, and now have all purple/gold numbered gear. 

Have done some low level daily targets.

Really like pretty much everything I've seen. Like the tier worlds as an idea. Like the amount of stuff I still have to do. 

Still not sold on how the numbers on guns rep which guns are good. 

So many different numbers, and even looking at them all and using common sense to compare even the same class of gun, there's still many times where a gun is far less effective than I think it will be.

Have a kick ass assault rifle, continue to be disappointed with most snipes. Marksman rifles continue to be a crap shoot on quality. 

What is the advice on getting gear now?

I'll mostly be solo, unless someone tells me that MM doesn't require talking or real comms with the grat unwashed, I may have some sessions with a mate, but not many.

Of the vendors, are any really worth saving up for?

Do weapon mods get the same number system as weapons/gear, or is a gold/lev 30 handgrip as good as it gets?

Why is recalibration cost so much? Is it guaranteed to make gear better? It seems like it's just a new roll?

Gold supply drops are clearly ridic to solo, but what about Incursions?

Enemies are level 32 on Supply drop, and it appears I am getting EXP for something. Is there a second level cap? All the other stuff on screen seems to be saying it's all gear based (effectively the same as destiny).

Any info appreciated.

(gonna check OP now.)

Cheers.

(Season pass already sorted. game sharing with mate who already has everything.)