The B&B Book Review
  • Skondo wrote:
    Just finished The Girl With All The Gifts by M R Carey. The story was kind of intriguing although it's written how I imagine a 'young adult' novel would be written - fairly simply with the odd big word thrown in. Sadly the characters were all too obvious and the ending was predictable. Disappointing.

    Can anyone recommend a novel where the ending really smacks you in the chops, or is at the very least satisfying?

    Skondo, pm me your address and I'll send you a couple of things that fit the bill.
  • That's very generous Stopharage, PM incoming.
  • Lord_Griff wrote:
    Reading Mievilles new book, New Paris. Seems a bit derivative.
    I liked this a lot.
    It was a good post.
  • Currently quite obsessed with Joe R Lansdale and have been buying all of his books that I can get my hands on - he's pretty much my favourite author at this point. Surely one of the great modern American writers.

    Reading 'Paradise Sky', an epic western that combines his trademark crackling and hilarious dialogue with yet another great protagonist against a background of post-Civil War Texas.
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  • I've not liked any of Mielgilles stuff. Don't really know why, it just doesn't gel with me.
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    pantyfire wrote:
    I've not liked any of Mielgilles stuff. Don't really know why, it just doesn't gel with me.

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    Tempy wrote:
    stuff about Pluto by Naoki Urasawa

    Wow, cheers for mentioning this, couldn't put it down, started reading it briefly when I got home from work yesterday,the next thing I knew it was half eleven and I had finished it. I used to be able to read like that as a kid, just devour books, but maybe age has stunted my imagination but I only seem to do that nowadays with comics and some other books. Wow, and thanks for bringing it to my attention, think I'll be revisiting it soon, was super fun, agree about the final act being a rush to tie things up though
    "I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B
  • Bollockoff wrote:
    Started Slade House to finish before a discussion meet next Wednesday. It is off to a surprisingly distressing start.

    Have you read his other stuff?  I quite liked it for what it is, but it's definitely enhanced if you have read his other books, and know how it slots in (particularly with The Bone Clocks).

    Also, it reminded me in a weird way of...
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    Reading the book of the film, Casino by Nic Pileggi.

    It's all over the place narrative-wise and it can be hard to remember whose dialogue you are reading at any one time because of the jumpy style. You can tell it was written as the film was being made.

    It's a bit of a mess but the content is very interesting. There's a lot more going on than even in the fairly packed film.
    Holding the wrong end of the stick since 2009.
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    @tin Nah unfortunately. But I've just read the part where
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    and the twins were namedropping arcane terminology and groups in what seemed like a fanservice fashion that I was missing out on.
  • Well finished New Paris. Left slightly angry.
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    Challenge him to a write-off.
  • It is the literary equivalent of Homeopathy.

    The moderately interesting concept of the Manifs, distilled into innocuousness through exceptionally poor description and visualisation. A dull story that could not be saved, I venture the essay at the end of the story was shoe-horned in to legitimise, or attempt to add mystery to, the failed experiment to leverage a novella off a singularly poor, derivative, idea.

    By the end China appears to be flogging, what is in all likelihood, a can of dog food.

    The man can clearly write, as exemplified by the Bas Lag Series which displayed skill at weaving compelling intertwining story lines and fleshed out characters.
  • Also £15 for 224 pages, or more specifically, 40 pages repeated 6 times.

    Leaves a bitter taste.
  • Thinking on it, there is some writing in the book, turns of phrase, descriptions etc which some reviewers have latched on to as examples of brilliance, but I can't help but feel that the are just poor examples of a second rate Joyce.
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    I'll email it to his publisher.
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    I impulse bought that mieville along with Pluto and 20th Century Boys so it is too late for me.
  • It's always been too late for you bollo...
  • Lol Griffin didn't understand the ending.
  • I concede he's not hitting the earlier heights of his work.
  • Lol Griffin didn't understand the ending.

    Individuals who haven't suffered some kind of debilitating industrial accident or caved in their own skull with a brick would understand the ending. It smacks of some prepubescent polytechnic student's idea of something deep.
  • Nah, I'm sure you got it fine. Wasn't the best ending. He's never done 'em well.

    Think you're being a touch harsh on the descriptions though. I thought teh 'monsters' / re:manifs (Rot Fall in particular) were great. I do wish he'd go full pulp though.
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    This was quite good, although with books like this it runs the risk of being obsolete before it's even published, such is the quick turnaround of meme's, attitudes, groupthink, feuds and cultural appropriation online. I knew lots of it anyway, just from general day-to-day existence online, but it filled me in on some of the areas I'd missed or issues which had been too depressing and squalid to even bother investigating in the first place.

    I'm not sure if these people deserve quite so much attention, but it is an interesting area. It does at least save you the trouble of visiting these sites and interacting with their denizens, which can only be good. I think I'm fairly internet-savvy but even I felt like a pensioner reading some of it. Needless to say, many of these people are completely awful, in many varied and wide ranging ways.

    Obviously lumping together all the factions that make up the phenomenon under the 'alt-right' umbrella is a bit simplistic but I understand it's a good selling point for the book, and to be fair it mostly avoids generalising and points out the many inherent contradictions within. Yeah, I dunno if these people even deserve such attention but it's good that someone documented a moment that may or may lead to other developments and mutations.

    Obviously everyone involved would laugh off the idea of this book anyway, or threaten to rape and mutilate the author (whilst being secretly flattered that someone had bothered to write about them in the first place).
  • It's a good outline, the actual theorising of what's behind it isn't that convincing. It had it's moments, wouldn't say it was rubbish or anything but there's still room for a more definitive take.

    I'd imagine it was somewhat rushed out to take advantage of the post-Trump serge in discussion of the 'alt-right'.
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    Finished Slade House. Overall I found it an enjoyable long-short story about a scary house you should never go in for malevolent soul imperiling reasons. Bar a rather humdrum and straightforward footnote to events that I wasn't too fond of. The descriptions of
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    Initially it left me half prepared to tackle The Bone Clocks but on 5 minute research it's firstly, pretty long and secondly, meandering in the extreme and very divisive even among his fanbase.
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    A Perfect Vacuum generally kept up the quality for 16 imaginary book reviews with some of them not actually being that tongue-in-cheek and rather serious ventures. There's a pretty good/crazy attempt in there to answer Fermi's Paradox and the silent universe problem by saying aliens created our laws of physics to keep us incarcerated and conceptually drowsy which is directly after a story about a man explaining how he feels about Godhood when he creates digital life in a digital eden and his creations start forming belief camps as he refuses to interact with them. (which reads a lot like Darwinia basically). 

    One in there, Belief Inc, describes a near future where we pay AI driven corps to basically create any life scenario we can imagine to spice up our lives and what happens when two of these competing corporations find they're entwined with two clients and two heavily contradictory requests (one man wants to save his neighbour's wife in a train crash, his neighbour wants him humiliated in the attempt) that results in an incident of such economically wasteful expense as two AIs try to play chicken with eachother that legislature has to be brought in to save the nations finances.
  • Bollockoff wrote:
    Finished Slade House. Overall I found it an enjoyable long-short story about a scary house you should never go in for malevolent soul imperiling reasons. Bar a rather humdrum and straightforward footnote to events that I wasn't too fond of. The descriptions of
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    Initially it left me half prepared to tackle The Bone Clocks but on 5 minute research it's firstly, pretty long and secondly, meandering in the extreme and very divisive even among his fanbase.

    Bone Clocks is similar I guess to Slade House, only each chapter is the length of that book.  I'd say it's no more or less meandering than his other books (all of which, Slade House excepted, could be described as such.)

    It is a bit divisive in his fanbase, but mainly for more overtly bringing out, and explaining, some of the supernatural elements of his books.  I think most regular readers had picked up on the connections between novels, but many would have been happier with them not being explained, and others simply didn't like the explanation that emerged.  (One you already know about, as it's explored in Slade House.)  

    Like a lot of his novels the book's basically a series of short stories, and again I think some people were less enamoured of some of the protagonists in Bone Clocks than previous books.  (Certainly I would have preferred to stick with the lead in the first story, rather than jumping to some of the others.)

    Having said all that, personally I preferred BC to Slade House, so if you want more adventures with those particular elements of Mitchell's stories it's probably still worth your time.
  • @Stopharage

    When you said you'd send me a couple of things, I thought you were going to send me something you had finished with. I certainly wasn't expecting you to buy me books from Amazon. Thank you very much indeed and thank you also for the book you bought for Dexter. All very much appreciated.

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