Final Fantasy - General - The Bear and Badger

Tempy

MattyJ wrote:

It comes from a desire to not want to just retread the original, which I get, but I don't see currently how it gives them much interesting to work with. You have these strong characters that they really build up well in this game, and then they escalate things so rapidly that I think they lose that facet.

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I was wary from the very minute Spehiroth turned up in this because the thing that mskes him so memorable in the OG is that he isn't there for a long time. You're just chasing a shadow. The flashback in Kalm has him kill a dragon you can't even scratch, and are a long way from even holding your own against. But in Remake you see him every hour, he's taken a special interest in Cloud, and you've beaten him in a fight. Sure, his ability to time travel explains all of that, but I think it's makes for a less interesting idea. I guess you argue, how can Cloud be a no-one now when we know he's a someone, but I think a good story stays good on retelling.

I'd forgotten that about the original,

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you don't see him for a while and then the massive damage he does way above your own. And the Midgar Zolom! I remember seeing that and thinking how powerful he must be. I think they could've not shown him until Jenova in the Shrinra building. But I think the whole point is a nod and wink to the fact you're playing the same thing again but something is different... The flashes of meteor, of Aerith dieing. I mean Aerith is literally saying at certain points that this isn't how it's supposed to go.

Yep. It's certainly one way to do things, I just don't know if it's a very interesting one.

EvilRedEye

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Tempy

I have no issue with that boss in question, it’s a totally fine addition not least because it gives us the best version of the best FF7 track

MattyJ

Shit yeah had a massive grin during that particular fight.

MattyJ

I think part of the issue is the unknown time until the next one. They could've set up the ending in a brilliant way if they knew there was a part 2 coming in 3 years. Don't have all the extra stuff with

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MattyJ

Finding it annoying that all my characters are at level 50 but still need to grind the HP+ materia to hit 9999 health.

EvilRedEye

The Final Fantasy XV book will be out in a couple of days. After 14 years the journey will finally be over.

Raiziel

I’m playing Final Fantasy!...XIII!...2!

I’ve always liked this one. While I came to grudging terms with XIII eventually, and liked it for what it was, I liked this game instantly, and still do it turns out. Lots of customisation, slightly less linear, and two protags I don’t want to strangle immediately. Noel especially, thanks in no small part to some decent voice acting by whoever it is.

Also, those Xbox emulation peeps are wizards. It looks beautiful on the Xbox X.

hylian_elf

I bounced off XIII-2. Didn’t enjoy it.

Time_on_my_hands

Well, I completed 7 remake.

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I'd intended to go for the platinum, as I love the original, I'm interested in the next episode but uninstalled straight away which I rarely do. My biggest non-spoiler problem was with the padding but that had little to no relevance to the expansion of the story.
For example, why introduce a whole new dimension to Avalanche and yet not explore this more deeply in the side quests? What we got was a lot of busy work. Then there was all the stuff that seemed to have been moved wholesale from Cloud's recount later on in Kalm and was done a whole lot better in the original.

And the combat vs aerial enemies.... ugh.

Raiziel

hylian_elf wrote:

I bounced off XIII-2. Didn’t enjoy it.

How quickly did you bounce? It really picks up after a while. I mean the story’s shit, but then all Final Fantasy stories are shit. But the gameplay gets good. Except for those clock face puzzles. I remember hating those. Haven’t come up against one of those yet.

hylian_elf

At first battle with Caius. I was doing something wrong as couldn’t beat him and then couldn’t be bothered.

I still have the game (on PS3) and was thinking of trying again as I do love my Final Fantasies.

EvilRedEye

Digital Foundry tested FFVIIR with an £800 Samsung SSD drive and found it improved some of the texture streaming issues. So now you know the best way to play.

Raiziel

On a PS5 next year.

MattyJ

EvilRedEye wrote:

Digital Foundry tested FFVIIR with an £800 Samsung SSD drive and found it improved some of the texture streaming issues. So now you know the best way to play.

I'm trying to remember if I noticed any issues when playing and don't think I did tbh. On ps4 pro.

EvilRedEye

Raiziel wrote:

On a PS5 next year.

It's the best way to play it NOW!! Why wait when you can spend £800 for the best experience in 2020??

MattyJ wrote:

I'm trying to remember if I noticed any issues when playing and don't think I did tbh. On ps4 pro.

You did because they showed it with a normal HD in the video, you just forgot. Or maybe you're pretending you didn't notice to cheap out of getting a £800 SSD. Well no excuses Matty!! Time to splash the cash.

MattyJ

Well guess that's it, get the credit card out

MattyJ

In other news I started XII Zodiac Age on Switch as it was in the sale. Really enjoying it, the extra speed definitely an improvement and everything is a lot smoother than it was on ps2. New licence board structure is cool, despite the brief panic over choosing the right role for people.

Great to be back in Ivalice.

EvilRedEye

I've been thinking about going back to FFXII for the sub-content (finished the game). Might be nice to roam around during lockdown.

Raiziel

EvilRedEye wrote:

I've been thinking about going back to FFXII for the sub-content (finished the game). Might be nice to roam around during lockdown.

I started a new game a few days ago. Just arrived at the Henne Mines.

cosmicjellybean

I almost certainly paid too much money for these (before realising they sold them in the uk squeenix store and being told by playasia they can’t refund...)

BUT OMG ADORBS

EvilRedEye

I just checked what happened to mine and they seem to have been delayed to September in the UK store.

cosmicjellybean

Yes! Worth the extra £20 Shipping and customs!

...maybe not. I did find my old olly moss print though, that’ll go nice with them.

Paul the sparky

cosmicjellybean wrote:

I almost certainly paid too much money for these (before realising they sold them in the uk squeenix store and being told by playasia they can’t refund...)

BUT OMG ADORBS

These are excellent

Wariospeedwagon

Agreed, they look awesome.

Did you get those in the 8 - blind box set? If so, do you know if you're guaranteed to get those 7 figures? Or if it's complete luck and you might end up with a few of the same figure.

Time_on_my_hands

THAT'S how these characters are meant to look!
But no Cid, Vincent, Yuffie, Rude or Tseng?

cosmicjellybean

Yeah it was the box of 8. I’m not sure if you are guaranteed the full set of 7 or not, I got all 7 and one double (rather than the chase figure). Either I was lucky or that’s every box set? I suppose you could end up with more than one double?

Hopefully this is just ‘series 1’.

Chase figure:

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Wariospeedwagon

Cheers for that. Getting all 7 is pretty promising.

Nearly bit the bullet on Play-Asia, as there's a couple of games I wouldn't mind getting on there. But the shipping + taxes sent the price from 'just barely justifiable' to 'waaay too much' - Will hold off and hope from a proper Australian release. Oh well.

tigersgogrrr

For someone who has played a minimal amount of Final Fantasy over the years, I have an inordinate fondness for the franchise. I think it's from playing 6 & 7 at that early teen stage where things stay with you forever.

I've just started 15 and it's very enjoyable so far. Look forward to picking up FF7:Remake at some stage.

The soundtracks in these things are just fucking stellar.

hylian_elf

Possibly my favourite game series in terms of ‘fondness’ and memories. Not the best overall - clearly that would be Zelda!

There’s just something about a FF game. I literally yelled with joy at the FFXVI reveal even though it’s ‘just another FF’ which may just end up being another inferior instalment after the mighty XII.

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