Mouldywarp wrote:I found Bayonetta quite interesting regarding this topic. She's the very epitome of sexist video game fantasy but then turned up to 11. I started to think of her as the female equivalent of Duke Nukem - a parody, basically. I'm not sure how most feminists would react to her though, probably not favourably.
Brooks wrote:I'm going to suggest no. Moreover, it's irrelevant. The species has made thousands of years of a point of saying "fuck you" to nature.
Let's not forget the unlockable costumes: cheerleader outfit, bikini etc.Mod74 wrote:I won't pretend to know what female gamers want, but from my male perspective I thought Bayonetta was one of the best female characters we've had in ages. Strong, sexy, maternal, sharp witted. Then there's a pole dancing section after the titles and it all kinda goes down the shitter, but hey.
XTC_NRG_4_DARKRAVER wrote:Your wife sounds like a right cunt.
revelthedog wrote:She says that they are games for little boys,
Not really, the sexism is part of what makes/keeps them juvenile.Little Franklin wrote:revelthedog  sounds like your wife has a problem with games being juvenile rather than sexist, that's a whole other thread....
Yes she does.  And she hasn't seen Bayonetta in action but I know that she wouldn't agree with it. Just from the point that it doesn't add anything to the game unless you are a 14 year old boy. The difference with games is the interactive element. In Bayonetta her outfit is disappearing because of some button I have pressed. I'm making the decision to attack/ kick / shoot / knife that person. she's fine with Dark Souls because of the Fantasy Element. She actually was surprised you could be a female character.  I guess its partly because she deals with real victims of domestic abuse that she finds the glorifying of it to be quite frankly tasteless and in many ways pointless. She has always wondered why when the games industry have such a blank canvas of creativity, the next big thing is always about running around killing things.Roujin wrote:Does your wife watch any form of reality TV Revel?
XTC_NRG_4_DARKRAVER wrote:I wouldn't have married someone so judgemental, frankly. Especially over something as pointless as video games. I mean, who gives a fuck what goes on. They're just a dumb passtime.
revelthedog wrote:She actually was surprised you could be a female character.
Your wife sounds like a right cunt.
Errr... you kinda set that tone with your OP, so I'm going to call you out on this one.Fentonizer wrote:I just can't believe that we're not past kitchen and sandwich jokes. I mean, what is that? That was maybe funny, like once? The problem is that people don't do enough to call it out. ...
djchump wrote:Errr... you kinda set that tone with your OP, so I'm going to call you out on this one.Fentonizer wrote:I just can't believe that we're not past kitchen and sandwich jokes. I mean, what is that? That was maybe funny, like once? The problem is that people don't do enough to call it out. ...
You started off with a kitchen joke, now you're complaining about how we're not past kitchen and sandwich jokes. This means you're an idiot.
RamSteelwood wrote:yeah, it's the problem when making a knowing, ironic joke on the internet, that if you shower it with winks and smilies it loses the effect, but if you don't then idiots will take it seriously.
revelthedog wrote:Yes she does.  And she hasn't seen Bayonetta in action but I know that she wouldn't agree with it. Just from the point that it doesn't add anything to the game unless you are a 14 year old boy. The difference with games is the interactive element. In Bayonetta her outfit is disappearing because of some button I have pressed. I'm making the decision to attack/ kick / shoot / knife that person. she's fine with Dark Souls because of the Fantasy Element. She actually was surprised you could be a female character.  I guess its partly because she deals with real victims of domestic abuse that she finds the glorifying of it to be quite frankly tasteless and in many ways pointless. She has always wondered why when the games industry have such a blank canvas of creativity, the next big thing is always about running around killing things.Roujin wrote:Does your wife watch any form of reality TV Revel?I'm happy that she has an opinion on it and that it is something she has tried to understand, especially since both my kids like playing games and she has tried to get involved.  I don't want my gaming to be something that I have to sit in a separate room to do, or wait until she has gone to bed or has fallen asleep. I don't appreciate what you said either. There was no need for it. By all means call me all the names under the sun, but don't disrespect my wife.XTC_NRG_4_DARKRAVER wrote:I wouldn't have married someone so judgemental, frankly. Especially over something as pointless as video games. I mean, who gives a fuck what goes on. They're just a dumb passtime.
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