dynamiteReady wrote:Seriously... My line is that a synthetic cause for global warming is certainly plausible, but if this idea is going to be rammed down our collective throats, then at least drop the pretty, green pathos and spend the money on educating us.
Take CO2 gases, for example.
What's the greatest single source CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere?
cockbeard wrote:... or by using measurements that have only been taken for the last 100 years and trying to apply them on a geological scale. It's like observing a bear in the winter for a few thousandths of a second and surmising that it must be dead
cockbeard wrote:I'm not saying climate change doesn't exist, I'm saying that we want people to check their consumption, we want people to dispose less. Whether we convince people to do it by telling them that a big guy in the sky won't let them go to his party, or by using measurements that have only been taken for the last 100 years and trying to apply them on a geological scale. It's like observing a bear in the winter for a few thousandths of a second and surmising that it must be dead
monkey wrote:We all take for granted that tobacco causes cancer. But does it? I spoke to a drunk idiot outside a pub a few years ago who said it was 'all bollocks' and he was smoking at the time. If anyone would know, he would.
monkey wrote:DR - that data is well known and not disputed.
cockbeard wrote:
You do realise that big business is really in favour of environmental fear, you hear a million and one things about alternative energy sources, very fucking little about actually using less shit, oh yeah, because of we consume less, we're worth less to big business
Yossarian wrote:Climate4you is run by a well-known denialist, Dr Ole Humlum. It is not impartial. It took me all of five seconds of googling to discover that.
Facewon wrote:Are you thinking if you end up in the middle you must be right?
Facewon wrote:Are you thinking if you end up in the middle you must be right?
dynamiteReady wrote:Yossarian wrote:Climate4you is run by a well-known denialist, Dr Ole Humlum. It is not impartial. It took me all of five seconds of googling to discover that.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/crux-of-a-core3.html
And 'apparently' skepticalscience.com is also run by an alleged fanatic for the opposing side...
Do you see why I'm trying to balance sources now?
Yossarian wrote:Because you've been taken in by oil industry propaganda. I mean, seriously, since when has arguing on the side of the overwhelming majority of of scientific evidence ever been considered fanatical? If you were arguing that Einstein's theory of relativity was wrong and I was pointing out the flaws in your argument, no one would consider me a fanatic. It's only this issue where things like this happen, because of a large, orchestrated disinformation campaign by the oil industry, which you've become an unwitting pawn of.dynamiteReady wrote:http://www.skepticalscience.com/crux-of-a-core3.html And 'apparently' skepticalscience.com is also run by an alleged fanatic for the opposing side... Do you see why I'm trying to balance sources now?Yossarian wrote:Climate4you is run by a well-known denialist, Dr Ole Humlum. It is not impartial. It took me all of five seconds of googling to discover that.
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