mistercrayon wrote:

5cream is a really interesting film in that it’s clearly written smartly and with a huge amount of self awareness but inside all of that context it is some how more disappointing than the thing itself because its seems smart enough to be aware of all the pratfalls the fact it doesn’t do anything actually interesting makes the endeavour feel worse than the sum of its parts.

Spoiler:

There’s this great gag about the 8th film in the in universe series of films Stab where some YouTubers say it might as well have been called Sta8 but why didn’t they - of course they didn’t call this one 5cream.

The problem is it too mirrors everything from the first one - they even end up at Randys cousin for a rules explanation, Dewey says all the rules, rules rules rules (it’s kind of funny that Scream is it self long enough to have its own set of explicit rules) but this one adheres to them to the letter. The point of the first scream is that I think at least one big one is broken - there’s a killer and it’s a mystery and they subvert it by having two. This time the killer is also a boyfriend with an accomplice. It seems also the film feels critical of fans but also panders too them. It’s very bizarre.

Perhaps the weirdest twist comes right at the very start in that the first girl doesn’t die but then also she’s young so usually that can save them.

I can’t help but feel there’s a much braver cut of this film (more killers, Sydney/Sam is the killer).

In some ways Ghostbusters Afterlife is a much braver film (I haven’t seen it) and I think that’s a little bit damning.

It was weird to realise that

Spoiler:

Billy is FP from riverdale - they did the weird de aging thing here at a pretty good standard.

3/6 stars (objective quality)
2/6 stars (actual rating because they constantly ram home in your face the problems with the thing they are trying to do and the disappointment that they don’t make cleverer or more interesting choices)

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

That's amazing

mistercrayon wrote:

5cream is a really interesting film in that it’s clearly written smartly and with a huge amount of self awareness but inside all of that context it is some how more disappointing than the thing itself because its seems smart enough to be aware of all the pratfalls the fact it doesn’t do anything actually interesting makes the endeavour feel worse than the sum of its parts.

Spoiler:

There’s this great gag about the 8th film in the in universe series of films Stab where some YouTubers say it might as well have been called Sta8 but why didn’t they - of course they didn’t call this one 5cream.

The problem is it too mirrors everything from the first one - they even end up at Randys cousin for a rules explanation, Dewey says all the rules, rules rules rules (it’s kind of funny that Scream is it self long enough to have its own set of explicit rules) but this one adheres to them to the letter. The point of the first scream is that I think at least one big one is broken - there’s a killer and it’s a mystery and they subvert it by having two. This time the killer is also a boyfriend with an accomplice. It seems also the film feels critical of fans but also panders too them. It’s very bizarre.

Perhaps the weirdest twist comes right at the very start in that the first girl doesn’t die but then also she’s young so usually that can save them.

I can’t help but feel there’s a much braver cut of this film (more killers, Sydney/Sam is the killer).

In some ways Ghostbusters Afterlife is a much braver film (I haven’t seen it) and I think that’s a little bit damning.

It was weird to realise that

Spoiler:

Billy is FP from riverdale - they did the weird de aging thing here at a pretty good standard.

3/6 stars (objective quality)
2/6 stars (actual rating because they constantly ram home in your face the problems with the thing they are trying to do and the disappointment that they don’t make cleverer or more interesting choices)

I think you make some valid points. Well except for Ghostbusters Afterlife. That movie is all the worst things about modern Hollywood films crammed into one face fuck nostalgia fest of a nothing movie.

Scream at least is a solid movie on its own merit.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Just watched Don't Look Up. Was good but I think I was hoping for better with that cast, probably unfairly as they all turned in a good shift. Speaking of which I didn't recognize Cate Blanchette at all, forgot she was in it until the credits rolled. She's always great isn't she?

For the lawyers: This was a bit. Ethan Coen had nothing to do with it.

Rev wrote:

The Gentlemen It's not Snatch by a country mile, but there's enough southern charm from Matthew McConaughey and a decent but not too outlandish plot that makes it move along at a decent pace and hit some surprising story directions. It doesn't try to go down too much of a 'huge twist (tm)' at the end either. Hugh Grant is nothing short of fantastic and it's worth watching the five ten minutes just to see him on action. Liked it a lot.