Film/Video Discussion Thread - The Bear and Badger

digi

Happy birthday dante

EvilRedEye

Happy Birthday Dante!

hylian_elf

Happy Birthday, Dante! Great choice for a birthday film!

nick_md

My first and favourite Ghibli back when it was Warriors of the Wind in the 90s (with a good 30 mins or so cut), good choice! Happy birthday dants.

g.man

Diluted Dante wrote:

Watched Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind for the first time today, as it's my birthday, so why not watch something older than me? What a great film. A lead character who is the whitest of white meat babyfaces, and yet remains incredibly likeable throughout.

Happy Birthday Dante!

ShabbyMcCrabby

Happy birthday Dante. The Nausicaa soundtrack is one of my favourites.

The Daddy

Happy Danteday.

Moot_Geeza

Happy watching films with the word wind in the title that are slightly older than you are day.

tin_robot

Happy Birthday Dante! Now watch The Castle of Cagliostro to make yourself feel younger still…

EvilRedEye

Jaws (1975) - At the cinema. I mean it’s alright isn’t it? Quite good? It’s not going on the favourites list. I’d argue it’s a bit overlong. But once it gets going it’s full of tense, practical effects-based shark action. If they made this today, the shark would be CGI and the boat stuff would all be CGI and green screen and it would look like ass, like the boat scenes from Road House. In a way you can’t knock it as an artefact of a time and place in cinema. But I do think it’s pretty imperfect. ★★★★☆

Paul the sparky

Aw, what a quaint little review. Keep at it, you'll get better.

Late Night with the Devil for me tonight

Moot_Geeza

I'm stingy with film scores for some unknown reason but Jaws is one of a small handful of legit 10s for me. Probably my favourite out of all the films.

Diluted Dante

So what is it that you don't like about it?

Moot_Geeza

EvilRedEye

Diluted Dante wrote:

So what is it that you don't like about it?

I think there’s too much film before the climactic scenes. The characters are well-acted but don’t really develop throughout the film. The core three are all basically random guys that happen to end up in the same place with no real investment in each other or the community the story takes place in. It doesn’t even really try to elicit any emotional response other than thrills. The closest the film comes to countering that is when the guy’s boy gets attacked but even that feels a bit manipulative. I’m not gonna argue with anyone that really loves it but I think if you divorce it from the context of it being a prototypical early blockbuster, childhood indoctrination etc. I think there’s a decent argument for it being just good.

Paul the sparky

It doesn't try to elicit an emotional response and when it does it's manipulative is a rip snorter of a take

ShabbyMcCrabby

Paul the Jaws Stan

I also think Jaws is an all-time 10/10 and I think it's because it does put character into the movie. The reason all the following Jaws ripoffs don't land as well is because they don't have the confidence to do something like the dinner scene with Brodie and his son or the Indianapolis speech. It's why Twister is better than it could have been even though it's no Jaws. There might not be any emotional stakes like the shark coming for his family in the end but I do think it means you care more about what happens to him on the water.

ShabbyMcCrabby

I thought this was a good watch too. Goes into what the original script and stuff was and whether the shark not working well was what made the movie better or not.

Moot_Geeza

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

There might not be any emotional stakes like the shark coming for his family in the end but I do think it means you care more about what happens to him on the water.

This is why Jaws: The Revenge is so good - it's literally a bloodline vendetta, and [spoilers incoming!!!] Brody has died from, iirc, a heart attack caused by just being too scared of sharks, even when there aren't any around.

regmcfly

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Paul the Jaws Stan

I also think Jaws is an all-time 10/10 and I think it's because it does put character into the movie. The reason all the following Jaws ripoffs don't land as well is because they don't have the confidence to do something like the dinner scene with Brodie and his son or the Indianapolis speech. It's why Twister is better than it could have been even though it's no Jaws. There might not be any emotional stakes like the shark coming for his family in the end but I do think it means you care more about what happens to him on the water.

Jaws is a top 10 of all time for me. There's so much family in the first half, and then the scene with the Kintner kid really being the kicker for "what if that had been our kid" that you absolutely know why Brody is going out on the water in the second half.

regmcfly

Mind you Jurassic Park is like number 2 of all time for me so maybe I'm just a Spielberg basic bitch who loved sharks and dinosaurs as a kid.

Sure hope my son doesn't end up that wa.... Oh.

Wookienopants

Jaws is a masterpiece.
I will fight anyone who says otherwise

Wookienopants

Fuck it, I'm watching it with my boys this weekend. Time they learned some history

Paul the sparky

Childhood indoctrination

Wookienopants

I'm an evil fucker

Paul the sparky

That wasn't even at you Wooks but it does fit well.

Just still trying to come to terms with how bad a take that was from ERE. An all timer

Wookienopants

Well yes, it is an all timer BUT it's a valid opinion, even if we don't agree with it. It takes all sorts

Paul the sparky

Not all opinions are valid. Some are just plain wrong

Wookienopants

Lol

Wookienopants

Yes but on the scale of "a tomato is a fruit" to "the sun is powered by children's joy" it's closer to the former

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