https://youtu.be/2_tCVeS4n-s

Still no sign of it being untethered? Come now, Sony.

And looking at that Horizon clip I’m guessing they’ll be focusing on visual fidelity above all else.

Headset has vibration motor in it.

I’ll probably be in with this. Great look VR experiences where I’m not necessarily spinning around would be good enough for these old bones.

More detail here. https://blog.playstation.com/2022/01/04/playstation-vr2-and-playstation-vr2-sense-controller-the-next-generation-of-vr-gaming-on-ps5/

Yeah seems like it’ll be an automatic off.

I don’t mind the wire if it’s super light.

Sony are pretty good with haptics so it would be worth experiencing before discounting it.

From the blog. For example, gamers can feel a character’s elevated pulse during tense moments, the rush of objects passing close to the character’s head, or the thrust of a vehicle as the character speeds forward.

b0r1s wrote:

Sony are pretty good with haptics so it would be worth experiencing before discounting it.

From the blog. For example, gamers can feel a character’s elevated pulse during tense moments, the rush of objects passing close to the character’s head, or the thrust of a vehicle as the character speeds forward.

Imo dual sense is not that good. The feelings are like old vibrations but whinier and the adaptive triggers are kind of shit. The controller is too big for my hands so extra effort to press a button is no fun.

They’re good at selling it for sure.


DOES ANYONE REMEMBER TEMPEST AUDIO?!

The adaptive triggers are not the haptics so you can switch that off if you don’t like the feel of the triggers. The dual sense is probably my favourite controller now (beating slightly the 360) and the haptics are best in class. Not sure what you’re feeling Crayon.

As for the audio works well enough on my headphones. Certainly Returnal made a big difference to the hectic gameplay.

b0r1s wrote:

And looking at that Horizon clip I’m guessing they’ll be focusing on visual fidelity above all else.

Doesn’t need to be a stand alone console, just wirelessly connect to the PS5. The Quest has had the ability for years via a PC. Tis a shame is all.

bad_hair_day wrote:

b0r1s wrote:

And looking at that Horizon clip I’m guessing they’ll be focusing on visual fidelity above all else.

Doesn’t need to be a stand alone console, just wirelessly connect to the PS5. The Quest has had the ability for years via a PC. Tis a shame is all.

Don’t disagree Hair. Guess they feel the wireless tech isn’t quite there yet. I recall it needed an upgrade router etc. though I wonder if they may release a special dongle for it in the future. That would be the best route.

Yeah since playing Returnal I can appreciate all the haptics and audio stuff. When it all comes together there's nothing like it. I'm in for the VR2 as I thought the first one is brilliant. Much, much better than it has any right to be for the price.

Even if they are the best that doesn’t mean they really approach anything near what what they sold before launch. With the vibration (I think adaptive triggers do count as haptic) it is more subtle than normal vibration and it’s true it’s a different sensation than normal rumble but for me i don’t think it feels like realistic things. Maybe it’s about effort and forgetting what Astro did but I think there was more hype than the reality could serve. I think the best use of vibration is still from the switch but even that was only in 1-2 switch.

b0r1s wrote:

@mrsmr2 so it’s not the tech, it’s if devs can be bothered to make use of it properly. Not sure Sony can be blamed for that. And tbh even if only first party stuff makes use of this tech at least it’s something different.

Obvs it's good to have the options.

Triggers - major disappointment to me because they simply make the trigger feel like it's stuck. It works for Returnal where you have a half way point but not things that are trying to add weight from the start of the movement. It just isn't smooth enough. What they should have done is design something that shortens the spring compression to vary the amount of compression force required. Obvs, this is not easy to do in a controller. But that's what I wanted.

Temptest Audio is a software tool trying to reprocess the audio signals. When a developer designs their games for it, it's good. For a lot of games it can makes the sound a bit thinner so it's worse. Unfortunately, it's buried in the menus and a faff to turn on and off. I have it turned off unless I'm happy a game works better with it. Works great with Returnal but that is also using the ray tracing to produce better sound placement (not sure if that is relevant to Tempest in this case).

Vibration is fine and I like it.


And there is a reason we are all referring to Returnal. How many other games are there that have been designed to make best use of these facilities?

It's good to have these options and I agree it's the tech and we need devs to use the audio and vibration well. However, I don't like the adptive triggers - that is on Sony.

I do like the dual sense very much as a controller. It beats the DS4 (my 2nd favourite) although it is a bit heavier. If it had the 360 triggers and buttons it would be perfect.

b0r1s wrote:

Headset has vibration motor in it.

I’ll probably be in with this. Great look VR experiences where I’m not necessarily spinning around would be good enough for these old bones.

More detail here. https://blog.playstation.com/2022/01/04/playstation-vr2-and-playstation-vr2-sense-controller-the-next-generation-of-vr-gaming-on-ps5/

The specs look really good. I can't imagine getting much change from £1000 to get a ps5 and psvr bundle though

Just had a quick go on Nioh 2 as the bow has the resistance from the start.

I always thought the silly clicking noise was from the speaker. It’s actually coming from the trigger when you release it.