The Matrix - There will be spoilers inside - The Bear and Badger

LivDiv

I genuinely don't think 4 does anything nicely.
I really can't think of a single redeeming aspect. Its atrocious start to finish.

I cant even say its good when it ends because it has that post credits scene which was pure hatred.

g.man

I liked the bit when I deleted it from my hard drive.

mistercrayon

LivDiv wrote:

I genuinely don't think 4 does anything nicely. I really can't think of a single redeeming aspect. Its atrocious start to finish. I cant even say its good when it ends because it has that post credits scene which was pure hatred.

I think there was a couple of jokes at the beginning, if you like the jokes, which is to say they resonate in some way, then you can vibe with a good portion of the film. If you don't think you like it or its really cheesy then I can see how it might be a complete bust.

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yourfavouriteuncle

I honestly don’t know what you were all expecting? It was madness to think you were going to get anything other than a mess.

davyK

g.man wrote:

I liked the bit when I deleted it from my hard drive.

Coffee up nose. Splutter etc.

LivDiv

yourfavouriteuncle wrote:

I honestly don’t know what you were all expecting? It was madness to think you were going to get anything other than a mess.

I didnt expect much
From the trailer I thought they might do a Force Awakens at best. Fun retread.

This film dreams of being as good as Force Awakens.

g.man

Yeah, it just had to be reasonable fun for a couple of hours. Sadly it turned out to be a dismal mess that lasted for days.

hylian_elf

there’s a post credits scene?! I stopped the stream as soon as the credits rolled, didn’t want to waste another second of my life on it.

Escape

davyK wrote:

if I don't get hauled to the flicks when the in-laws appear mid week.

g.man

hylian_elf wrote:

there’s a post credits scene?! I stopped the stream as soon as the credits rolled, didn’t want to waste another second of my life on it.

LivDiv

Ha.
Indeed.

Escape

There's also a UE5 tech demo with horrific motion blur. Played for a few minutes and canned it.

It autoplays until you get to freeroam. I got bored of its obvious scripting and left the pad to see what happens, and it has no failstates. Looks good until you move the camera, so what's the point.

Yossarian

That’s literally the first time I’ve seen anyone complain about the graphics in that tech demo.

Escape

Because if you reduced them to hit 120fps you'd have something that looks much better in motion. It's a postcard demo.

Cupatay

Blocks100 wrote:

For all the good it's done him he may as well have sticked it up his arse.

This deserves a nod.

djchump

I enjoyed M4 - but I guess as an ex-gamedev fan of M1 who noticed a bunch of the Easter eggs and cameos (Chad Stahelski, Kim Libreri, spotted Tiger Chen briefly but would have liked him to get more screen face time tbh) I’m probably right in the demographic for it.

hunk

I just started watching this.
It's....meta all right. A bit too meta as if the director was kind of forced into the project by WB's. I mean how many deja vu's were edited into the film? We got the hint after 2 or 3 but still the director just keeps throwing them at you.

mannaboy

Torpedo this thread and let us never mention this ever again. Terrible movie.

hunk

Okay, finally finished watching this.
It's not good. But certainly not the worst movie I've ever seen. Definitely the weakest of the 4 films as the plot was too predictable.

If they make a fucking superhero series from this I swear I'm quitting the Wachowski's tho.

Dark Soldier

Watching now. Some of the reactions in here are fucking mental lads. It's nowhere near the worst movie ever. It's not great but Jesus christ. The first has some fucking awfully shit bits throughout.

Scout

My biggest surprise with it was just how utterly forgettable all the action scenes were.

Dark Soldier

Im liking how it feels like a film Wachowski didn't really wanna make and is a big fuck you to WB. It's decent fun.

I don't have any affinity to the first which I've always thought was decent but nothing more so probably helps.

nick_md

Lost a post but basically I said I rate matrix 1 as a classic but find that it starts well, ends well, but the middle is boring.

mistercrayon

I'm in camp Matrix 1 = stone cold classic and Matrix 4 is good fun. I think I see matrix 1 as way more goofy than most though.

Dark Soldier

The first is pretty shit outside of the 'big' moments. Awful dialogue, shitty acting, in love with its own universe. Its a proto-Marvel movie, really. It had Bullet time and 1v1 fights in slow mo and rain cos emo was big back then.

This one seems inline with the series as a whole. Some good bits, some awful.

djchump

I preferred M4 to M3. M1 I still love best, M2 had its moments. M4 mostly got me with the memberberries and Easter eggs for the fans/vfx/stunt/game nerds.

Blocks100

I lasted a whole 15 minutes before switching it off. Whatever you might think of the the other films, at least they had gone to some incredible lengths to build a pretty unique sci-fi universe. Which this 'film' decides to sweep away almost instantaneously by suggesting all that we had watched before was just the fevered dream of some video game developer? What a fucking rancid sack of shit of an idea.

Armitage_Shankburn

Dark Soldier wrote:

Watching now. Some of the reactions in here are fucking mental lads. It's nowhere near the worst movie ever. It's not great but Jesus christ. The first has some fucking awfully shit bits throughout.

I should say, I was just joining in. I thought it was pants, but genuinely I'm embarrassed to have liked the first one so much. It's also quite pants in retrospect

mistercrayon

I think you’d be better placed to criticise on that point if you watched the film.

@block.

Dark Soldier

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

Watching now. Some of the reactions in here are fucking mental lads. It's nowhere near the worst movie ever. It's not great but Jesus christ. The first has some fucking awfully shit bits throughout.

I should say, I was just joining in. I thought it was pants, but genuinely I'm embarrassed to have liked the first one so much. It's also quite pants in retrospect

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