See when he's making his arms rigid so they can't put them behind his back, turning his body so they can't handcuff him, walking/running away from them and refusing to obey clear commands? Â Those are all clear examples of resisting arrest.dynamiteReady wrote:It's clear the dude wasn't resisting arrest...
I've not watched your videos yet, but I will pick you up on this. Â It is not a nasty weapon, it's a considerably safer option than a great many others, and while you might be right about it not having a place in a civilised society, it does have a place in our society.g.man wrote:Nasty, nasty weapon that has no place in civilised society.
I didn't realise you were allowed to hit people on the head with batons.adkm1979 wrote:Getting one good, effective strike in on the leg, yes. Â However, as the Profiled Offender Behaviour moves up the scale, so does the Reasonable Officer Response, and that includes a strike to the head if required.
igorgetmeabrain wrote:I didn't realise you were allowed to hit people on the head with batons.adkm1979 wrote:Getting one good, effective strike in on the leg, yes. Â However, as the Profiled Offender Behaviour moves up the scale, so does the Reasonable Officer Response, and that includes a strike to the head if required.
pantyfire wrote:All the vids are a mixed bag. And you also have to take into account this is the US, with guns everywhere. Dyna's one is ambiguous. The man is clearly resisting arrest, but then without the full context it is unclear whether that arrest is legal at all.
dynamiteReady wrote:Others don't, but refuse to give out those details on principle. And when no crime has taken place, that's a legal right, no?
Bollockoff wrote:I've never understood that mindset. Just hand over the ID for a few brief seconds and be on your merry way. "Exercising" ones rights can get to ridiculous levels with some people for no good reason.dynamiteReady wrote:Others don't, but refuse to give out those details on principle. And when no crime has taken place, that's a legal right, no?
adkm1979 wrote:Cops are just normal people, Igor.
dynamiteReady wrote:That's also how I've been raised, but doesn't mean we should have to whenever asked. Like if you hadn't committed a crime, but was asked to produce a DNA sample... Why would you?Bollockoff wrote:I've never understood that mindset. Just hand over the ID for a few brief seconds and be on your merry way. "Exercising" ones rights can get to ridiculous levels with some people for no good reason.dynamiteReady wrote:Others don't, but refuse to give out those details on principle. And when no crime has taken place, that's a legal right, no?
The Police officer at the start explains that there has been an infraction. Â Now, over the pond they get quite uppity about whether something is a crime, an offence, a misdemeanour or an infraction. Â I wouldn't begin to guess at what has happened in the build up, because we don't know. Â We can't pass comment on whether or not they have a legal power to see the man's ID. Â From what little I can garner from the dialogue, if it was over here we would have that power.dynamiteReady wrote:And when no crime has taken place, that's a legal right, no? But looking at that situation, those weapons should not have been drawn at all. Dude - "Have I committed a crime?" Poh-leece - "No sir." Those policemen should have explained their right (if any) to his ID... Then they should have gone all Rodney King on his shit...
Bollockoff wrote:MTV yet again making a show that I think is complete dogshit but which I can't veer my head away from.
g.man wrote:Sadly these are just a few of hundreds of videos depicting extremely questionable use of Tasers. Nasty, nasty weapon that has no place in civilised society. We all know the police have a very hard job to do, but tasering people has become far too lazy an option. regards g.man
You in the habit of being gassed/tasered?Moto70 wrote:I'd rather be tasered than gassed again, I had 4 good bursts to the face from about 3" away and I wouldn't describe it as comfortable, I couldn't open my eyes for a good 30-45 minutes and every time I tried it was agony. The worst thing was that when I washed in the morning it hurt all over again whereas getting tasered only smarts for a few seconds...
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