The original trilogy was for kids like the top Pixar films are for kids.

The newer trilogy was 50% news night 50% teletubbies. Appeasing no one.

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I've always found Empire a little boring.

I love the Endor battle. Ewok stealing the speeder bike still makes me chuckle.

Gonna sit and watch A New Hope tomorrow with my lad for the first time. It's gonna be emotional.

LotR is still good.  Having watched the appendices twice I may bit a touch biased.  Incredible feat of film-making never to be repeated.

I liked the Ewoks tbh. They were going to eat the protagonists.

The bit where they approach Death Star II only to realise it's a trap and then turn around to face the imperial fleet is fantastic, Williams music is on point. I think the intercutting of that, Luke/Vader and the Endor fight makes up for the Ewoks a little easier to stomach (A wing flying into the control tower to take down the Super Star Destroyer is great) but I'll always forgive Star Wars a lot of sins for its spaceship stuff, because it hasn't really been bettered.

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Skerret wrote:

LotR is still good.  Having watched the appendices twice I may bit a touch biased.  Incredible feat of film-making never to be repeated.

Its good but its not as good or near great as many people hold it up. The run time is massively overlong, the third part is padded to an insane extreme (you've had two films to build things up and now we are going to... build some more...) 

There's still much to like but a recent rewatch showed up a lot of flaws and I found myself cringing at one or two points. I think (and I am saying this only from my own perspective) that like Star Wars, these films are perfectly entertaining movies but they really shouldn't be held in quite such high regard (and in turn maybe shouldnt be slammed as much either).

Jedi is ok, has the gold bikini for starters.

It got considerably worse when Lucas turned the Sarlac pit into the plant from Little Shop of Horrors and added all the celebration shite at the end.

As a kid I loved the escape from Jabba, and the scene where one of the ewoks is nudging his dead friend seemed incredibly sad. Now I'm just disappointed at Fett's comedy death and Hayden Cuntface as Anakin's ghost.

Hopefully now Lucas isn't at the helm, at some point we'll get a BR release of the original trilogy without all of his alterations. Can't think of a single one that wasn't detrimental, never mind one that actually improved anything.

adored wrote:

Jedi is ok, has the gold bikini for starters. It got considerably worse when Lucas turned the Sarlac pit into the plant from Little Shop of Horrors and added all the celebration shite at the end. As a kid I loved the escape from Jabba, and the scene where one of the ewoks is nudging his dead friend seemed incredibly sad. Now I'm just disappointed at Fett's comedy death and Hayden Cuntface as Anakin's ghost. Hopefully now Lucas isn't at the helm, at some point we'll get a BR release of the original trilogy without all of his alterations. Can't think of a single one that wasn't detrimental, never mind one that actually improved anything.

This is all true. I recently dug out my DVDs of the original trilogy, they were the very last release of the original versions. Digitally remastered, plus the original theatrical releases, they're about as good as you can get. I feel like I should rip them all and upload them to every torrent site in the world.

I think Jedi gets harder to watch as you get older, when I was a kid we loved the Ewoks and hated C-3PO, now I'm older, C-3POs camp indignance and frustration at his retarded dustbin companion are way more entertaining than when I was a retarded child who thought 'ugh I hate C-3PO, all he does is complain'.

I think the price of having to endure the Ewoks as an older viewer is worth it for the scene where Luke is just wailing on Vader as he goes to the floor and the things that conveys about Luke's journey up to that point and the knife edge he ends up on between not being like daddy and uh oh being like daddy. To badly approximate the quote from the Plinkett review of the opening shot of A New Hope 'this scene is so good that George probably had nothing to with it and fought to have it removed from the move'

I tried to get them and it was a right pain

There's a guy who is re-shooting fx scenes from the original trilogy to a very high standard.

This guy.

He built miniatures and everything, it's all very slick.  ANH is spot on bar a shot of Tarkin missing.

They're huge files but I would have thought somebody would have uploaded an mp4 version by now.