g.man wrote:

YAS!

Paul the sparky wrote:

I thought the possibility of spin offs was strong with this one.

Spoiler:

You had Qui-Gon popping up and saying there's a lot to do or something, Reva got her origin story, Ice Cube said it was just the beginning, Leia is supposed to be ten and looks about 5, got a good few years of her looking round about the right age too, Uncle Owen or Aunt what's her face might fancy a jaunt, they seem to have a history of getting into mischief. Lass off Rome and her droid are the only two without the potential of an adventure

ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

I finally finished the first episode. I still don't understand who this is for. Was anyone actually interested in seeing a young Leia? Why are they so obsessed with filling in the gaps of what we already know instead of telling new stories. This stuff doesn't add anything or improve anything to what we already have. Oh no Uncle Owen is being threatened, I wonder how this will end!

superflyninja wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

RedDave2 wrote:

Stupidy in allowing directors to shit on preceeding films

I maintain that the narrative started in the Force Awakens needed shitting on to some extent. It was a decent film, but it was basically a retelling of A New Hope, what did that open the sequel up to apart from retelling Empire Strikes Back? The mistake, IMO, was either in not following through on Johnson’s more original vision, or in allowing TFA to have been essentially a remake of ANH in the first place.

I don't really want to open the TLJ can of worms again. But I am still curious. In what way was Johnson's vision original? What even was his vision? What do you think his vision was?

RedDave2 wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

It wasn’t a misstep if you were then willing to allow someone to subvert the expectations it created and follow through on that. Your argument is that they needed to revitalise the franchise with fresh characters, which is true, but they also needed to revitalise it with fresh stories, which TFA failed to do and which TLJ tried to do.

I'm ranting at something a little different to this (although I agree they need fresh characters etc.) 

I'm just wondering why the obsession with setting your narratives in worlds where everything is pretty much already resolved. In Obi Wan, how could you feel like Leia or Obi were in any peril? Even the fight between Vader and Obi is kinda pointless - we know neither one of them dies. Yeah, we get a nice scene but thats it. 

As for Johnson, I cant speak for the guy but it was clear he wanted to, as Kylo puts it, tear down the established star wars restrictions. No dark side/ light side. No Empire vs Rebels. At a guess, the arms dealers were being set up as the new big bad who were pitting small regions against each other and perpetuating galaxy wide war. I wouldnt have been surprised if Kylo and Rei had joined in a third movie against them, thus bringing a balance to the force. Another option I though he could take was an unhinged Kylo wrecking havoc across the galaxy with whats left of the first order. Not taking control, just burning the universe to the ground and Rei has to stop him.

I might be putting words in mouths but one of the biggest gripes some people had was the decision to kill Snoke because he was built up as the big bad but thats the thing - who says you need a big bad guy like palpatine? Thats been done. Snoke getting killed so throwaway was great to me because instead of thinking that the movies were just going to build to Kylo trying to get Rei to go Darkside while Snoke plays puppeteer a-la the emperor, when Snoke dies I didn't know the direction the story would go. Thats a plus for me.