Funkstain wrote:Diluted Dante wrote:I feel like maybe you're projecting the guilt of your own inaction onto others based on that Funk.
Maybe? But it’d be nice if you could explain how that’s relevant to my point above
Funkstain wrote:I'm not saying: people don't need more help to understand what they could do and what it could achieve I'm not saying: fuck you you lazy hypocrites I haven't told anyone they are pathetic
Funkstain wrote:like fuck bit of recycling here or there isn't 'doing something' listen I don't give a fuck, tbh, if people don't want to do anything about it. just stop pretending that it has "no effect". It's fucking childish. If lots of people do something or somethings, then that has an effect. it also makes more people do those somethings. and then it can achieve high level change, as companies see bottom lines suffering, and governments see support eroding. so do what the fuck you like, eat raw cow until they stop coming home, but stop fucking saying that "there's nothing little old me can do" cos it's patheticPauls point is that it's not that though. People have been doing stuff and the effect has been... negligible at best.
Paul the sparky wrote:It's not really worth owning though. Like, no matter what you do, you could always do more. There's not a reachable limit is there? I think everyone (who cares about it) will do as much as is within reason for them based on time, money, effort etc, so there's definitely room for more. It just wouldn't really make a difference if they did. No point in owning that unless you want to flagellate yourself over the guilt
Diluted Dante wrote:Well...Funkstain wrote:I'm not saying: people don't need more help to understand what they could do and what it could achieve I'm not saying: fuck you you lazy hypocrites I haven't told anyone they are patheticBut if you didn't mean it fine, we can move on.Funkstain wrote:like fuck bit of recycling here or there isn't 'doing something' listen I don't give a fuck, tbh, if people don't want to do anything about it. just stop pretending that it has "no effect". It's fucking childish. If lots of people do something or somethings, then that has an effect. it also makes more people do those somethings. and then it can achieve high level change, as companies see bottom lines suffering, and governments see support eroding. so do what the fuck you like, eat raw cow until they stop coming home, but stop fucking saying that "there's nothing little old me can do" cos it's patheticPauls point is that it's not that though. People have been doing stuff and the effect has been... negligible at best.
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